#Random discusses Microsoft's announcement of its tablet, called "Surface". In this opinion piece, #Random questions how the Surface will compete with the iPad, and how he believes it won't matter.
So, you say you speak for an entire community? How do you know that everyone agrees with you? I sure as heck don't, and I'm the proud owner of an ipad and iphone and I definitely want and am planning on buying the surface come this winter. The pro version will come with two usb ports, hdmi exterior output, and the full windows os along with i5 ivy bridge. That's more than enough for me to switch. And those keyboard covers- just slick. You never know, things change. Nothing is permanent. Heck, I'll even be able to play steam games on the go.
I actually just replied to you on the main site, but I'll reiterate it here: Basically, it wasn't my intention to speak for all on this one. I did assume others would agree, but so far, I stand alone on that. I'm cool with that. It was just my opinion on the matter. As for the specs, they may be enough to take control of the market eventually, but I wanted to give my initial opinion right at announcement time. I may be wrong, of course, but that's just me. As for Steam on the go... that is one thing I love. I think the Surface has some awesome features, just not enough for me personally. But, we'll see if the iPad never gets cloud gaming (OnLive) and the Surface gets Steam, I will rethink my stance for sure.
This is the first mature "debate" I have seen on this site.
"Microsoft Surface: No Thanks, I Have an iPad" this title sums it up, even if you include Android, didn't see any reason to buy any tablet after iPad1. but if the Pro Windows tablet can run like a decent laptop then i'm sold, i will just need a slide keyboard version with keys that "click".
IPAD doesn't have competition and why because of the thousands and thousands of apps that it has. Microsoft is a little to late. If it decides to go heads on against the Ipad 4 then it will just get demolish. Apple is just mainstream to be defeated at this time.
iPad may have thousands, but Windows 8 and Surface has millions.
@timotim only the pro version, and we are yet to see how well it can run legacy programs
Case and point of an Apple fanboy not paying caring about better specs on a competing device... Your Ipad isn't running a full OS or an i5 processor.....
many dont care though. If they did then they wouldn't be buying an Ipad in the first place would they. It's evident how better product doesn't always prevail. Look at ps3/xbox vs. the wii. or Iphone vs. SGS3/HTConeX
Apple just made a simple os for the ipad and iphone and that makes its better ?? No it doesnt in my personal opinion its aimed at retards/casuals thats why its a succesor
It won't matter. If it sells only americans will buy it. Like how they tried to get people with xbox's to buy nokia win7 phones with a live app on them,lol. comical. Another fail coming up.
For me it's the complete opposite. I have no reason to ever buy an Ipad when the Surface is offering everything I could ever need (and more).
Well at least it will be lighter for people to carry when they have to take it in to get whatever virus, trojan, etc removed since i will run windowz 8. Plus hardware aint shit without good software, and thats where Apple and Android got it beat, wheres the MS app store ? There isnt one.
Can you please send me your full release version of windows 8? I would love to try it out. I mean how else could you make such a statement without trying to full extent the os out?! And maybe you should check what is the number 1 hackable/virus affected machine I think you would be slightly surprised.
"Introducing Microsoft Surface, a new tablet device designed for people who want more from their tablets. Has a keyboard, integrated kickstand, Metro UI, comes in two different configurations..." "No thanks, I have an iPad." "Introducing the new iPad*. 50% more magical. Also, it's a different colour." "ZOMG! I MUST HAVE MAGICAL DEVICE."
Ipad? no thanks I have a laptop that puts it to shame.
The iPad is the way to go Microsoft is just playing catch up.
Bro you nailed it. Also regarding touch phone concepts and front/back side dual touch, transparent see through touch etc Microsoft has been way ahead of competitors but most ppl dont know or have not been able to capitalise on it.
Apple will be playing catch up once the Pro version of the surface takes off. Mark my words, Apple will bring out an iPad that runs a full Mac OS and call it "magical" And the irony is...Apple is actually the one playing catch up in the mobile market to some degree with features...especially with their mobile OS for cell phones.
Surface is looking really good, especially its hardware and its on win 8. Apps are old back to new gen software programs. This has a good chance of beating ipad if it can run straight out win programs, then why the hell would i need a lame, under evolved app?
I hope this can run some half decent games..
Since it's a new day but my opinion piece seems to have warranted a lot of attention, I'll jump back in on this. 1. My big mistake here was using the phrase "voice of the general community". When I typed it, I was speaking more along the lines of "I'm trying to separate my love of Apple from this, and thinking how someone else would". It was the wrong phrase to use, it didn't convey my message properly, but I did type it and obviously won't edit it out - just wanted to clarify. 2. It seems that those on my side of this debate are putting together as weak an argument as mine is perceived to be. The Surface may end up being the greatest product ever... but when it was announced, at that current day and time, I felt underwhelmed. I wanted to give an initial, subjective opinion. I have few facts and only conjecture to back up my thoughts, but I'm fine with that. I wanted that. 3. And those opposed? They have the best points... but that's what I wanted. I want to hear reasons why I should get on board with the Surface (and I've actually heard a few that have caught my attention). That's all. I appreciate those willing to enter a discussion or debate with me on this, especially since I openly admit that my "stance" has no firm backing. Thanks for reading.
What scares me is that the negative attitude towards the surface reminds me of how alot of people reacted to the i-pad: "It's just a massive i-phone", "It's not powerful enough to be a laptop and too small to be a phone: who's going to use it..." e.t.c. Well, we can see how that turned out.
I'm not saying the Surface will succeed, all I'm saying is let's wait and see before making our minds up.
Apple has become the new Microsoft to the extent that I prefer Microsoft now. I hate IPAD. PC all the way. My GTX 680, i7 3770k, 16gb 1800mhz ram and AsRock Z77 Extreme6 motherboards shits on all these dumbed down tablets. Bow down to the Beast!
If the Pro model lives up to expectations and has decent battery life, I am sold and you can bet the farm Apple will release a "NEW" iPad running OSX and then call it a new invention even though they and their legions of followers bashed this idea. The sheer fact that all of MS platforms now share very similar coding and kernels is a HUGE advantage over what the direct competition has out and or coming out. The compatibility and transference of software across those mediums will be effortless. The fact that the Pro version runs a FULL OS and is in that form factor is a HUGE plus that Apple or Android cannot follow at this time. If Microsoft can price it lower than Ultra laptops, they have a winner here big time. Something you will see Apple copy and then say they came out with it first.
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