yeah misconception

Agreed that the light bar won't make a big difference on battery, but you can't blame people for thinking it would.

They blame it just because it is light, and people equate light with power. Plus for the most part it is completely unnecessary and most people would have it turned off if there was an option to do so.

@Unholy

Yeah, I don't blame people for wanting to turn it off. I don't really know if it's absolutely required to run on all games, and seems if one doesn't have a camera, it's completely optional.

I find it mostly superfluous to how I use a controller, and never even notice it, so the "alerts" that devs can program in for their game are mostly useless for me. Putting it on top will make it more noticeable, but I could see how it could be distracting. I prefer the only light when I'm playing to be from the TV, and the dim overheads to help prevent eye strain.

Obviously it'll have a purpose for those with a camera and a motion control game, and for PSVR, but otherwise it should be completely optional. At the very least, people would realize it would have no appreciable effect on the actual battery life.

Games like Killzone Shadowfall use the light bar as a energy/life indicator, cant exactly flip over the controller in the middle of a firefight to see your energy levels can you? GTA5 uses the lightbar by flashing red and blue when being chased by the cops, a light indicator on the touchpad would easily show when you have escaped the cops view and to calm down your driving.

Is it not because everyone complained about seeing the light bar reflection in their tv screen?? That would make more sense to move the light bar to where it is now.
Edit: Oh, I didn't know the original light bar was still there too!!

Ever thought that they might give you the option to turn it off in that controller?

"If you are in a well lit room i dont see how the small light in the front will make a difference."

well, it's a good thing that both situations where we've seen the light bar on the touchpad in operation (in the unboxing video, and this one) have been in well-lit environments, and both times the light was clearly visible to prove this statement false.

"Games like Killzone Shadowfall use the light bar as a energy/life indicator, cant exactly flip over the controller in the middle of a firefight to see your energy levels can you? GTA5 uses the lightbar by flashing red and blue when being chased by the cops, a light indicator on the touchpad would easily show when you have escaped the cops view and to calm down your driving."

all this information is on the screen.

@milohighclub

Not disagreeing with you, but most games now a days offer the option to turn off the in-game HUD.

@ziggurcat

So you are saying that the light is still visible in a will lit room therefore proving Rimeskeem's statement wrong? Because you quoting what I said makes no sense at all. Unless of course you're doing your usual shtick.

@milohighclub

"all this information is on the screen."

I agree, don't see too many people actually looking down at their controller for this information when it is all displayed on a HUD. This was a main complaint for the Wii U when some gamers didn't want to keep looking down at the second screen for inventory options during gameplay.

well xbox 100$ kinect's main use was to say "xbox on" instead of pressing a button...sooooo yeah that lazy. Lol

"So you are saying that the light is still visible in a will lit room therefore proving Rimeskeem's statement wrong?"

you're clearly referring to the touch pad light as the "small light in the front" because your position has already been made clear that you find it pointless/ridiculous (demonstrated by your incredulity towards people for not tilting the controller up to look at the light bar while they're in the middle of playing their game), and just argued that it would make no difference in a well-lit room. the two videos showed that, even in well-lit environments, the "small light in the front" is clearly visible, and because it faces up the entire time, it would allow people to see the colour of the light more easily without having to tilt the controller. the "huge light at the top" (what you've referred to the current light bar as being) is not visible only because when you're holding the controller correctly, the light isn't facing you. if you were to awkwardly hold the current controller with the "huge light at the top" pointing up at you at all times, then it would be just as visible as the "small light in the front", even in a well-lit room.

@Ziggurcat

I suppose this is what happens when you try and pick a fight and don't know the context of the actual conversation.

Not to mention Rimeskeem edited his comment a couple of times so maybe that is where the confusion and your misplaced anger is coming from. But since you are so hellbent on trying to pick a fight with me on N4G, lets do this...

"has already been made clear that you find it pointless/ridiculous..."

Not true and thanks for making this up, Rimeskeem first said that the reason the light bar is now on the front is because hardly anyone noticed it where it was originally positioned. He then switched it to suggest that it's there because in a well lit room the color isn't noticeable, that is where my comment of a well lit room would make no difference if what he said is true. He then edited it even more to suggest what you are reading from him now.

So again, I'm responding to Rimeskeem because he is the one who said this not me.

As for the rest of your explanation, I seriously don't care.

Anything else?

@Grilla - I am basing my orientations as if the controller was standing up on it's legs and the buttons / analog sticks were facing you. Thus the triggers are what you would call the top. Sorry, I should have specified that.

The top of the DS4 is slanted downwards somewhat where the light is, so I can see it being referenced as the back.

@Loktai - yeah, after studying it a little more I can see how the lightbar can constitute the back since it is slanted downwards.

But yes, I definitely don't hold my controller with the buttons and sticks facing straight up, that would be super awkward. Definitely angled upwards.

@ kiwi, you are joking right?
Xbox rising to the top?
Lol ok how?
Because it won July as far as sales goes in USA? I would hope so. You were able to get Xboxone for cheap with free games. plus the new Xboxs just came out this month so hopefully they will win August too but that's where is going to stop. PS4 sold around 44 million Xboxone is probably around 22 million. Yeah that tide ain't changing anytime soon.
Thanks for the laugh.

Your pretty closed minded, look at the big picture, instead of worshipping what is soon to be outdated, twice over.