LOL, these shooters are just so over. I think they are tying to relive the glory days of the shooting era from last gen. Like when Halo and Call of Duty would sell over 20 million copies. I think Call of Duty: WW2 was suppose to be the comeback when they finally listen to the critics and went back to a classic war setting, I think I heard it sold less than 3 million copies. Now Blacks ops 4 is back with the same shit, same crap trailer with shit rap music, like it was still 2007 . And now Battlefield V, chasing the dead ghost of Call of Duty. I thought it was hilarious when I saw the reveal video today had a bunch of dislikes. That era is long gone, thank goodness. Call of Duty should just be thankful it had the success it did, because it sure didn't deserve it. I don't get what people ever found so appealing of these crappy ass wannabe military simulators. I remember before Modern Warfare, Call of Duty was just a crap ass World War II shooter, the name didn't mean anything, you couldn't tell it apart from another mediocre franchise like Medal of Honor. It's just time to move on from this shit.

Watching these franchises trying to recapture the glory days of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare is plain out cringey.

Yeah it was super disappointing, why didn't they show the game in action? You don't need to have a 30 minute reveal to show a trailer. Add to that Trevor Noah is probably the least funny person in existence and his commentary was cringe-worthy and he obviously didn't know what he was talking about for being a "gamer." Hilarious when they mentioned co-op and he immediately said it was his favorite in BF1 only to have the developer say 2 seconds later that they hadn't had coop since BF3.

Which might actually be more fun than the real thing. It think it looks awesome even if it's not completely authentic.

It's the cheap cop-out development we have come to expect from most multi-platform "historical" games as of late, unfortunately. It's significantly cheaper and easier to just take some random designs from history and make your own clusterf*ck than to spend time researching what actually took place.

I think the whole alien(steampunk) look/feel is because they had to deviate enough with its looks (e.g. character apparel/equipment/prosthetics) in order to facilitate paid skins (loot boxes). I mean how else would they convince us to buy ordinary, realistic (boring) soldier uniform skins from 70+ years ago?

We have to be cautious with BFV for now, we do not know what's EA's true intention yet.

That means nothing when it comes to EA. They'll find a new way to make money at the expense of gamers.

You'll have to use war bonds to buy stuff like in bf1 I'd imagine. Question is how stingy will they get with them trying to get people to pay for them instead.

It doesn’t mean EA is innocent. They will find a way to screw consumer off.

I know they have but the demographic for gaming is older, I am 35 and I just think they would have more respect for us than keeping up this bullshit facade and calling it "gameplay." The HUD overlay is really what makes me roll my eyes.

I can agree with you on this one. It’s a freaking video game not a documentary on the history channel. I play games for fun, but that’s just me.

Further more, we've already had games, Battlefield games at that, that focused more on authenticity. Why would we basically need ANOTHER exact remake of WW2? Do something different with it. And I'm pretty sure no one wants jetpack futuristic battlefield right now, we have Star wars to fill that void, once they get their ish together.

agree 100x. Who plays video games for its authencity. Is a game which means anything goes. This generation has a bunch of cry babies

Yep, and then some of these people turn around and play something like a JRPG or God of War and somehow don't see the hypocrisy. I can already predict their response, but it's not logical. Just because a game has a semi-realistic or historical setting doesn't mean it has to live up to some absurd standard of authenticity.

Ummm reality check, bf and cod success originally came from authentic ww2 ganes. Its bizzare they cant separate modern and old now. What a embarrassment the new cod was for ww2. Who wants ww2 setting with perk guns and modern physics .i didn't sell well compared to there's for a reason

Some of the character designs are straight out of Apocalypse Now, so there's definitely some Vietnam in it. The MG also makes no historical sense whatsoever, and looks like a simple re-skin of an M60.

I'm glad you brought that up that Killzone had Dedicated servers. I remember the Yellow Dog Linux days of PS3, as well. EA use to do more Dedicated Servers for games but as time went on they would 'rent them out' and slowly the official servers would die down.

P2P Lag always had that magical thing (Gears 2 (Aak the shot gun) and Halo 2,3) fans know as host advantage. That alone allowed for lags switches, booting of others from games. ECT. (Though I admit, was the most fun I had when our team could beat cheaters. Man was that a good time)

I fully agree with you, the fact so much is working how it is has in a hard way compromised network/client security issue. I'll pick on COD for example where some assets are local and other are on server, between games and between even evolutions/iterations of the engines used.

@phil

Thank you for the reply i am glad others on here remember

Now back to the series x having games with the same frame rate as a 2005 xbox 360 but the masses thinking that is fine and next gen.

Starfield on series x native 780ishp fallout 3 xbox 360 720p both 30fps gaming has "grown so much"

Sadly we are not in large numbers and see mp/sp tech wise/cheater wise has gotten worse not better.

I hate to say it about Starfield I'd have too look at reports from way back when. I swear to god they said it was going to launch with Creation Kit 2 (I worked with 1 alot in Skyrim mods in the block based aka cell based structure) Back then it was great, but for the life of me I don't know how a Studio like Obsidian can make a game same as Bethesda but with less bugs and bull shit. (Fallout Veg and Outer Worlds) Not that it was with out bugs but when a 3rd party does better with your own tech... I find an issue... with it all.

Frame rate stuff I only understand from two points, design and marketing. On the Design part yes back in the day 30FPS was I swear almost more common then now days. It was not a design compromise to keep it at 30 as the hardware and the way the game was being 'displayed' (Key thing there) was as impactful. Now days I feel the Marketing side wants a 4K trailer running likely rendered on a Xbox or PS system with little text saying (Oh wit was on a PC that no one is able to afford... of course teasing there a bit.)

I do understand that Starfield is a 'simulated world' where like every item you drop is there, for like forever... cool, that is not too new now days and design wise, is kind of a dumb thing.... who cares how many carrots you can collect... is it cool sure, makes for good PR in some ways. Lack of tangible game play is the issue. I can't take credit for this but a buddy of mine worked in advertising and I shit you not at Fast food. They would make wax and even 3D print now and then post render foods you would get, just for you as the client at a Burger King to not be given as you where sold on. (((( He did not work for them FYI.. but others)))

Issue with gaming as you are saying is too much is on the 'presentation.' It does not sell like it use too, that type of advertising. Most of it is word of mouth, who my friends tell me is a good game or not, what my friends are playing. Then comes the reviews.

Its dumb that our next gen systems feel like we gone all but up a step that we already went down two to three on. Take Uncharted 4 for example 30FPS SP and 60 MP. That I can deal with, and that was a PS4 game.

I do at times dis Xbox a lot, but come on, they still have yet to make there own damn game engine. Slipstream failed heavily, where Sony and most of their own studios have tech they made for the games they are trying to build. I am unsure how Xbox is again now saying the 'next' system will be the best ever. Sure it will be duh? Tech changes and grows, but I never seen a system use it so poorly. (I blame alot on the bloated Xbox OS FYI)