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GameStop Says To Be “Impressed” By Xbox Scorpio; A “Very Powerful Unit”

GameStop has expressed to be impressed by the Xbox Scorpio, and the retailer believes that the console will have some great titles.

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Deep-throat2603d ago

The Scorpio could be a... monster.

XanderZane2602d ago

Indeed.... I hope they have a lot of games to show it's power.

https://media.tenor.co/imag...

andrewsquall2603d ago

Yeah, a monster in hideous looks perhaps. As far as tech wise, it sure is a GDDR5 beast just like the original PS4 has been since 2013.

BigWan782603d ago

@andrewsquall..

you sound like a bitter ex-girlfriend...

TheUndertaker852603d ago (Edited 2603d ago )

Like the Pro that went with 1GB DDR3 for extra over the base PS4?

But you say Scorpio will sport GDDR5 along with extra like the Pro saw? Hrm... Kinda seems like you're clearly stating PS4 will become the inferior console then downgraded portions of their mid-gen upgrade.

That GDDR5 helps perfectly replicate PS3 games though yeah? How about PS2 & PSOne games? Gives you native 4K? Plays a 4K Blu-Ray? Does great things for much outside of graphics that it doesn't max out?

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Omnislashver362603d ago

Forgot about the 4k Blu-ray thing... I might bite but I'd need to see some exclusives outside of Halo/Forza/Gears/Crackdown. If the next Mistwalker game is XB-only I might... MIGHT bite.

Exvalos2603d ago

Damn is the scorpio using jaguar?

TheUndertaker852602d ago

@Exvalos: The original Xbox One contains Jaguar

http://www.tomshardware.com...

CoLD FiRE2602d ago

Here, show me on this Playstation 4 doll where Xbox touched you.

DAEMONIFEAR2602d ago

With a better gpu/cpu that has a memory buffer of 320gb OVER 100gb more then PS4Pro!

Scorpio in a way has the power of putting a PS4Pro and PS4 together

andrewsquall2602d ago

@BigWan78 I would need to have had a past "relationship" with any Xbox console for that to be the case (you know, the way it is with EVERY single Xbot out there that either guaranteed had a PS1 or PS2 back in the day before Gears of War came out in 2006 and changed thier lives forever).

It would make more sense for you to claim I was jealous but then, what would i be jealous of exactly with the games I've got on PS4 in early 2017 alone? And we still have TLOU Pt II, Days Gone, Spiderman, God of War, Detroit Become Human and Dreams on the way.

andrewsquall2602d ago

@Crotaaa Yet your comment history shows plenty of bias toward hating Sony so you honestly think you are the one to be saying that???

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TranceHop 2603d ago (Edited 2603d ago )

Preparing myself for a $600 price tag for the Scorpio; can't see it any cheaper than $600.

AngelicIceDiamond2603d ago

Yeah if MS wants to commit suicide, sure.

jznrpg2603d ago

They have been slowly killing themselves why stop now?

denawayne2603d ago

Microsoft is worth $510 billion; Sony is worth $34.1 billion
Really puts it in perspective doesn't it?

BlackTar1872603d ago

Yes Denawane it really puts into perspective MS actual focus on gaming.

OpenGL2602d ago

Apple and Google are worth more than both, it's completely irrelevant. Microsoft isn't spending the same kind of money on the Xbox platform that Sony is spending on Playstation.

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andrewsquall2603d ago

I wouldn't think so, remember its looking a tad more powerful than a PS4 with more easy room with its 12gbs of memory to work with. The question will be, will their be 2 models of it like a cheap one at 400 but with a 500gb hard drive and a 500 one with the 2tb or something.

Kribwalker2603d ago

A tad more powerful? It's a PS4 Pro and an additional PS4 worth of power out of the GPU. Now if there's an upgraded CPU and more ram it will be far more then a Tad bit more powerful

81BX2603d ago

You seem a tad bit jelly

Omnislashver362603d ago (Edited 2603d ago )

In terms of vs PS4-Pro I can only imagine it will be a tad better in practice. Some 1800p games will be 4K but because of checkerboard it's not going to make a huge difference.

Now if Scorpio maxed out the 6 TFLOPS by going 1800p and checkerboard with upgraded graphics, we'd see a bigger gap. But few games are going to be especially optimized for Scorpio. They'll get a miniscule res bump and that's it. By time MS comes with a beast app PS5 will be here and it's too little too late.

Grown Folks Talk2603d ago

Devs already make games that scale for pc. Same process. When installed on Scorpio, it unpacks the highest settings.

andrewsquall2602d ago

@OmnislashVer36 Exactly, nail on the head mate. All these delusional people that think Scorpio is going to have mind blowing games when the games still have to target the lowest common denominator, the original Xbone.

@Kribwalker That's just it, we aren't talking about a generation difference in architecture like the PS4 is compared to the original Xbone. They are both the same GDDR5 with Scorpio clearly being higher in overall spec. But let me guess, back in 2013 "the Xbone and PS4 are practically the exact same thing".

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S2Killinit2603d ago (Edited 2603d ago )

It willbe around 399-450 no more, It would be suicide

Gaming4Life19812603d ago

I think it will be 500 but if they do 400 then it will sell at ludicrous speed. I personally think 500 is a good price with kinect and a elite controller. I still have my kinect but i still think it should be bundled. The elite controller is a must though.

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81BX2603d ago

At $600 I'm game... not happy but still game

XanderZane2603d ago

I see it at $500. That's really the highest price they should go for this unless they want to lose a lot of sales. Only hardcore gamers will get it for $600. They shouldn't even bring this to Japan at all. Maybe is 2-3 years from now when it's about $300 or less then get ship a couple thousand over there. lol!! They won't buy it for $500 or even $400 so why bother.

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Bigpappy2603d ago

Its going to be another month before we start to get more solid detail on what the final Scorpio will have under the hood.

Cmv382603d ago

No, going to be another 2 months of rumors. E3 will be concrete details. I just really wonder how they plan to market the thing. What is their end goal of it. Anything short of a full unveil and a clear direction.

madforaday2603d ago

What they need to do is start by showing some first party titles that look exciting and new. Just look at the original Xbox, Dreamcast, beginning of the PS3, all of them had more power than the competition but lacked in games. It is very easy to stay in this industry... make games.

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KingKionic 2603d ago

Hype is building all aboard the scorpio train folks. The 4K beast is will be revealed in 3 months.

Gamestop excited. E3 gonna be lit.

TheCommentator2603d ago

Gamestop said it is a 4k machine, which is why they are excited for it. They also believe it will sell well.

Lol, indeed.

Liqu1d2603d ago

Gamestop are excited because it's more hardware for them to sell.

DigitalRaptor2600d ago

@ TheCommentator

Lol, at your naivety, indeed.

Liqu1d covered exactly why that is.

xHeavYx2603d ago

Yeah man! Can't wait to get more news on E3! Especially on the amazing games that are coming out!
Oh wait... I was thinking of a different console.

Paytaa2603d ago

Yeah the Dreamcast is getting so many great games it's sick

andrewsquall2603d ago

Like Cuphead and what? Are we missing something here??? "amazing games that are coming out"? You mean another Crackdown sequel by NOT the original game's team again? That's already "amazing" to you?

TheUndertaker852603d ago (Edited 2603d ago )

Yeah right? Those amazing games from last gen being offered with backwards compatibility at no additional cost.

Oh sorry. Just realized I'm talking about the company written about while you aren't. 🙂 Definitely not the same company. I forgot the other doesn't allow you to merely play those same games again without a cost being involved somewhere.

But hey! Enjoy the limited exclusive Crash from the 90s and Wipeout from the same era. I'm sure $40 each isn't too much.

xHeavYx2603d ago

Lol @ people taking it so seriously. Kionic is my brother from another mother.
I do have to say @TheUndertaker, you making fun about exclusives is just silly. I mean, I expect that from Kionic, but you should know better

KingKionic 2603d ago

HA...

Oh Lord Phil has prepared a slew a banquet feast of games.

Overfilling the chalice!

TheUndertaker852603d ago

Are they really exclusive if they're available on PSOne along with playable on PS2 & PS3? I'm confused as that seems to be the PlayStation ecosystem but oddly Xbox & Windows aren't considered the same as it's not the same platform.

Because if so Xbox has many more exclusives that PlayStation fanboys choose to label as cross platform while products like this are somehow "exclusive". Further with titles moving to PS Now then playable on PC are they still exclusive as it seems that's exactly what MS has been doing but natively and with less cost to the end user.

But, you can pay for those titles again if you wish. The topic Scorpio will play past gen games just the same with no cost to the end user.

XanderZane2603d ago

Mario Odyssey doesn't come out until later this year. Sorry mate. lol!!

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Xbox Studio Closures 'Eggs Broken to Make Omelet' Situation; Great Show Could Mostly Eclipse Anger

Wccftech discussed the recent Xbox news with MIDiA Research analyst Rhys Elliott, who pointed out that a strong upcoming Games Showcase could help a lot with fans.

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RaidenBlack8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I was hoping for something different from Coalition, not Gears 6 so soon.
Their expertise in UE development could've propelled them to try out other IPs using the new UE5.
But guess, given recent MS' state, Gears 6 was the 'safer' call for the studio. But still hope they venture other IPs or even other genres ... at least FPSs in future?

Alexious5h ago

Microsoft seems only interested in maximizing profits through its biggest IPs at this point.

Fishy Fingers3h ago

So soon? Its been 5 years since Gears 5, longest gap between games in the franchise.

XiNatsuDragnel8h ago

I was hoping for better but Microsoft being safe again....

MrDead3h ago

Why would people be less angry? If MS made it's own games instead of buying up what was already available then we wouldn't be in the situation that everyone is angry at.

MS is the problem.

miyoka3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Just forget what happened and keep supporting Microsoft!

SonyStyled1h ago(Edited 53m ago)

Everybody pays for or uses MS in some form personally or professionally. If that’s considered supporting, it hasn’t been helping Xbox.

PRIMORDUS3h ago

Fuck MS and Phil. I already told that shit bag off on Twitter, if the dumb ass responds I highly doubt it, I will go off much worse. What a fucking disgrace MS and Phil are to the gaming community.

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Brad Hilderbrand explains the reason behind the recent Xbox studio closures

There are two reasons why all those Bethesda studios closed, and neither of them have anything to do with Bethesda (directly)...

Game Pass and Activision.

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Christopher9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

The guy confirming what we've all (well, most of us) been saying since the latest purchase.

crazyCoconuts6h ago

Remember the relatively common counter that went something like "I'm sure you arm-chair CEOs know better how to run a company than the biggest company in the world"?

I mean - there's a lot to running a company for sure, but on this topic it's hard to understand how Phil and team didn't see this coming.

Tody_za6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Phil and team knew it was coming and planned for it. It's not even a conspiracy, it's simply the business of cutting costs and superfluous studios after a major acquisition. They don't give a damn about Tango Gameworks or other small creative studios that won't recoup their losses. They don't care about investing in this industry. They have no interest in risky and expensive new IP. They are only interested in profiting off ownership of Bethesda IP, Call of Duty and Candy Crush.

I guarantee you that not one single game under their banner will improve or become bigger and better.

Welcome to the Xbox family, what a pathetic joke.

Anyone who continues to support this, enjoy your future, because this is it. Ninja Theory is next, and Perfect Dark after that.

Christopher5h ago

Especially not with the evidence of tons of existing movie streaming subs out there and how they fail to make a profit with over 100m users each quarter.

Lightning774h ago

Apparently they're debating if they wanna put the new Cod on Gamepass or not.

Either grow GP with Cod or don't put it on GP and grow the revenue the traditional way while GP will suffer.

The mess that MS puts themselves in.

XiNatsuDragnel9h ago

I'm not surprised Microsoft guys are crock nuff said

isarai9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Honestly i think Bethesda needs to buy themselves out of zenimax/MSs hands and do their own thing, i honestly think that would fix a lot of issues and save them from a potential closure.

Zeref9h ago

There's a reason they sold in the first place. And Bethesda is not closing anytime soon lol. As much as I hate the studio closures. They were all small studios 2 of them were mobile studios.

I think these are growing pains and Xbox will get back on track. But they're not getting any more passes.

jwillj2k47h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I’d like to see your reaction to being growing pained out of your job after the launch of a successful product.

Mr_cheese5h ago

Excuses, Excuses, excuses.

If growing pains have been happening for the best part of a decade, they're not growth.

XiNatsuDragnel5h ago

Zeref nii San
I'm sorry but xbox has been rightfully bashed due to constant incompetence

romulus235h ago

Yet you literally just gave them a pass, being "small studios" or "mobile studios" is irrelevant. There's no excsue for closing Tango, none. They praise the game, they PR talk about it's the kind of game the company needs and yet they shutter the developer, that's foul on every level.

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Tacoboto5h ago

Bethesda greenlit Redfall, launched Fallout 76 in the condition it was in (and the fiasco with the bonus bag), and spent all that time on Starfield finishing it as it was with that same engine. Wolfenstein Youngblood exists because of them too, not Microsoft.

Are you *sure* leaving them alone would actually result in a better outcome, not just a different one?

isarai3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

A lot of this excessive monetization, and GAAS crap started when Zenimax decided to start looking for a buyer. Not a coincidence that there was a sudden shift in prioritizing profits above quality or even coherence at the same time. They wanted big numbers to attract buyers, now that they've been bought, MS wants exactly what they were baited with.

However even under Zenimax they made enough to self publish sometimes, so i would imagine it's not too far fetched that they could pay their way into independence if they REALLY wanted to.

Also even people at Bethesda and Arkane were hoping MS would cancel the game as again, they were forced to make something they didn't want to make.

Einhander19729h ago

Ah, we can see how the Microsoft media machine works.

Every article I read now is some kind of attempt to shift the blame off Microsoft and paint them as the victims or convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate.

The shills are out in full force today.

Christopher8h ago

This is not at all what this article is saying. It's saying that honest and useful studios are getting closed because of big money deals elsewhere and the faults with game pass as a model.

Einhander19728h ago

I understand what the article is about.

It's a deflection, it's a putting the cart before the horse article.

Let me tell you how this problem wouldn't have existed in the first place.

Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with. Then not buying Bethesda and undertaking costs for a service that was already failing to pay for itself because their own expectations of Game Pass having "billions" of subscribers was unobtainable from the very start.

And if you don't think that was the case go back to the article on the day Game Pass launched and read the comments from people from day one who foresaw that this would be an unsustainable model and would cause people to stop spending in the same way.

Christopher8h ago

***Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with.***

This article literally supports this opinion. He's not praising Game Pass or the ABK purchase.

Einhander19727h ago(Edited 7h ago)

This is an explanation of why it failed, there is zero blame put onto Microsoft itself.

Yes, it talks about what went wrong, but it doesn't say Microsoft shouldn't have done it. It doesn't say Phil should have foreseen this outcome and stopped before it got to this point.

"convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate"

Christopher7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

***but you're seeing the impact; all those smaller studios making really interesting games are going to fall away, simply because as good as games like Hi-Fi Rush are, they're never going to make enough money to make up that $70B hole that Xbox now has to dig itself out of.***

If you see that as support or you explicitly just want people to end their argument with "and, in conclusion, Microsoft bad" then that's on you. This article does not support Microsoft's choices and highlights the faults. Nothing it says is good about these choices, even saying that putting CoD on Game Pass would be money losing for them because they've set themselves up for failure (and not putting it on there will drop subscriber numbers like crazy, meaning their Game Pass plans were shit to begin with).

No matter how you look at it, they're saying Microsoft made decisions that hurt the bottom line, force closures, and leave Game Pass in a situation where they lose no matter what they do. It's all negative.

Einhander19727h ago

Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist?

Christopher7h ago

***Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist? ***

How is this an argument to anything being discussed? This is just as valuable of an argument as "if fish had stayed in deeper waters, they wouldn't have evolved to tetrapods, adapted to shallow water and then to land, and we wouldn't even exist and have to worry about game pass at all."

You're bringing nothing to this argument and then complaining that other people are highlighting the issues with Game Pass and spending tens of billions on studios because what we should be discussing is what it would be like if Microsoft hadn't done any of that.

Well, they did do it. Now pull up your big boy pants and join in on the discussion of what that has meant for the industry since then and, especially right now, how that is affecting the industry and game studios under Microsoft. None of us are able to go back in time and change what was done.

Einhander19726h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Christopher, this isn't me not understanding what the article is about, it's you not understanding what I am saying.

If you want me to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions you're not going to get that or just agree with people who are doing that, it's not going to happen, nor are you going to convert me into thinking xbox "needs to exist".

Ya know what, maybe "Microsoft bad".... maybe their decisions ARE having a negative effect on the industry, and instead of deflecting from their actual actions and making excuses for them we stand up and say "no" "Microsoft is hurting the industry"

And maybe, just maybe, it was so obvious that this was going to be the outcome that even nobodies in comment sections on websites were able to easily predict this outcome, yet Microsoft did it anyway then kept doing and even when it became undeniable that it was having a negative impact on their business and and the industry itself, then they knowingly made even bigger purchases and caused more problems.

And the one thing you're right about is that I can't go back in time, but I CAN speak up and try to keep it from happening again...

Maybe if the people who were speaking up 7 years ago were listened too we wouldn't be having this discussion and Tango and Arkane would still be in business along with all the other people who have lost their jobs due to Microsoft's actions.

Do you like analogies?

What you're saying is like an alcoholic crashing their car then trying to explain it by saying it was caused by everything except the fact that they were dunk because they are an alcoholic and don't want to stop drinking.

TiredGamer6h ago

The article is essentially focusing the blame on MS. GamePass was a hail mary play to change the gaming paradigm and carve out a special niche for themselves, emulating the Netflix model, that might have led to MS becoming the leader in the long-term. Unfortunately, the subscriber growth isn't really there, and the model isn't really built to weather that lack of revenue. MS is now in a restructure mindset to figure out how they balance out their model in a way that can still make them money.

've always believed that GamePass was a high risk shot that had a very low chance of long-term success. But the problem with it, whether it succeeded or not, is that it accelerated the proverbial "race to zero" consumer expectation that ran its course in the mobile gaming industry in the late 2000s. When consumers start thinking that games should be "cheap" (as in through a $10/month all-you-can-eat subscription model), it turns the narrative against games being priced at realistic levels. So with the GamePass failure, they've not only sabotaged their market share, but they've impacted the entire industry and devalued the cost of game development to the average consumer. So now it's harder to develop mega-big budget games and to earn the revenue needed to pay for them.

XiNatsuDragnel5h ago

Again terrible excuses in the 1st place

Christopher5h ago

***If you want me to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions you're not going to get that or just agree with people who are doing that, it's not going to happen, nor are you going to convert me into thinking xbox "needs to exist". ***

No one is asking you to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions nor is anyone asking you to convert to anything.

***Ya know what, maybe "Microsoft bad".... maybe their decisions ARE having a negative effect on the industry, and instead of deflecting from their actual actions and making excuses for them we stand up and say "no" "Microsoft is hurting the industry" ***

Literally no one here is doing this. They're literally discussing how Microsoft's decisions have hurt the industry. Except you. You're rambling about why people aren't complaining about Microsoft when people are in fact complaining about Microsoft.

*** And the one thing you're right about is that I can't go back in time, but I CAN speak up and try to keep it from happening again... ***

Then perhaps actually add something to the conversation other than calling people shills when people are complaining about the decisions and repercussions of Microsoft's actions.

Tacoboto5h ago

Christopher, you're fighting a block wall here - Ein will continue twisting and contorting any remark to fit his self-created narrative.

Einhander19725h ago(Edited 4h ago)

"Then perhaps actually add something to the conversation other than calling people shills when people are complaining about the decisions and repercussions of Microsoft's actions."

Cristopher, in no way is the author of this article complaining, they are explaining what happened it's literally the title. They never once say that Microsoft shouldn't have bought Zenimax or Activision or that Game Pass was a bad idea to begin with. They think the problem with Game Pass is that it didn't grow fast enough, not that it was a bad idea from the get go.

BTW this is his job title.

"Public Relations and Communications Leader"

What do you think a Public Relations and Communications Leader does to make money?

Edit: I have read a dozen of these articles that just started coming out in the last 24 hours that are trying to shift the conversation away from blaming Microsoft, the shift here and in several other articles is trying to say it just didn't gain subscribers fast enough, not that it was a bad idea to begin with that was doomed to fail or placing the blame on anyone.

It was all just an unforeseeable outcome, no one should be held responsible it was just a billion dollar oopsie that's costing thousands of people their jobs and has caused a downturn in the entire industries sustainability.

Oopsie!

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MrDead7h ago

It's greed. MS has the IP's it wants now it's dumping the studios that it's raided, MS will still make money from Tango's games unlike the people that made them. If anyone follows MS outside of gaming you'll see this is what they do, buy companies take what they want consolidate some of the workforce and shut them down. I don't know why people are acting so surprised when this is Microsoft being Microsoft.

MS is a three trillion dollar company, if it enters a market it has no need to compete, they take what they want and with the financial influence it can bypass laws that are meant to protect the consumer and the workforce. Just look at how they are cornering the AI market right now with buyups and investments.

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Generative AI Will Allow Bigger, More Immersive Worlds, Says EA, and Developers Were 'Hungry' for It

Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson said generative AI will allow bigger, more immersive worlds, and the developers were very eager for it.

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Christopher1d 6h ago

If you want a tool to reduce the time it takes to make a product, AI is a tool to do that. If you want a tool to just make content for you, AI is a poor crutch for good writing and storytelling.

Vits1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

I don't disagree. However, good writing and storytelling in games are still pretty rare. Honestly, AI as it is right now could probably produce output similar to, if not better than, your average experience. Especially because the main issue I see being thrown around for its use is the generation of ludonarrative problems. But, we have literal GotY winners that are incarnations of ludonarrative problems and written by humans. So if specialists don't care, would the average player even notice?

That said, from the perspective of improving the craft, AI will undoubtedly do more harm than good if used for that.

Christopher1d ago

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying what we're getting out there right now is overall great from everyone. There are obviously a lot of bad writers out there. The problem is AI learning from bad writers. No thanks!

thorstein1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Time for AI to replace CEOS. That way, when it fails, as it inevitably will, there's no one to tell. The employees can continue to make games, get raises (no CEO bonuses), and there will no longer be bone headed decisions by id10Ts.

Christopher1d ago

Think how much easier it will be to fire an AI CEO than a real one! We've sacked Ocrulos AI CEO and will be replacing him with Kensho Technologies v3 CEO.

isarai1d ago

Honestly, that's the funny thing I find about AI. Is that it's the management and higher up positions that are the most perfectly replaceable positions with AI vs people at ground level.

CobraKai1h ago

I agree 100%. Think of all that money that can be freed for the masses

XiNatsuDragnel1d ago

Just ea man y'all embarrassing yourselves

anast10h ago

Games are about to get worse. AI will do most of the lifting, devs will polish the turd and prices will raise because of "the economy".

SimpleSlave10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

'Generative AI Will Allow Bigger, More Immersive Life>>>>>> >> Work Balance and Paychecks for our Employees, Says EA, and Developers Were 'Hungry' for It'

Sounds good to me.

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