But pro-net neutrality groups will sue FCC to reinstate consumer protections.
Elections have consequences. This is what happens when a moron becomes president. 80% of Americans were in favor of keeping Net Neutrality. Despite the protests, pleas, massive amounts of comments, it was all ignored. I hope this gets ripped to shreds in the courts and congress (yeah right). Thats the last hope. This was not representative of the American people in any way shape or form. RIP to the free internet.
Well said. All I know is that come mid-term elections, things will be different.
Oh no doubt. As cynical as I may sound I still have a shred of hope. NY's attorney general is already suing over this. 'They' (the ISP's) have already lost twice when this was brought to court. Our hope is for this to be mired in the courts for the next few years. Vote out the plutocrats in the meantime, neuter the Orange one's presidency and restore the internet when a 'D' takes office. Thats pretty much it.
As much as I agree, PLEASE PLEASE do NOT politicize this!
The ISP’s are already working on finding ways to pitch this to conservatives so that the conservatives would do the fighting for them. You blaming Trump for this will play right into ISP’s hands.
We need to be UNITED against this, Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative, IT DOSNT MATTER. They are screwing us all. We need to show these greedy ISPs that they cant do this to us.
Access to an open internet is a right! ISPs are providing a utility. We cant let them escape that truth.
the best hope would be taking this to a constitutional court and go along the lines of blocking freedom of speech in the media to an extent. which would hold some weight.
but everyone on top is all in it together so good-fkn-luck with that.
No, that's a good, hopeful outlook. Everyone on top is not for this at all. There are plenty of generally conservative people with power who have supported and will continue to support a free and open internet.
Allow me to remind you of two things: (1) We can't elect our governments a la carte. We're forced to take one whole package or the other. There are issues much more important than net neutrality that take precedence when voting. The other package would have preserved net neutrality (probably), but would have fostered the growth of identity politics and other leftist agendas. (2) The president didn't do this. This was the act of one corporate shill with too much power. And the fight is not over. The lawsuits and Congressional wrangling now begin. Yes, the midterm elections are coming too. Democracy may yet see some real action.
The act of one corporate shill?! Yet it was all the "righties" that voted against net neutrality The president didnt do this? Yeah, ok, what nonsense! Who made him the commissioner of the FCC? "Leftist"? Oh thats right, a rightwinger called Trump did and did he do anything to try and stop him? Nope, not a word, not a peep. And who tried to stop him? Oh thats right, the so called 2 "leftists" members on the panel, along with a whole host of "leftist" all over the internet and congress. Who was supporting this? Oh that's right the super far right wing, Fox News was. So keep on complaining about "leftist" and "identity" politics when this is what the right is doing. And get your facts right.
And let me get this right, so the left engages in identity politics, yet the right being pro white supremacy isnt? Hmmm, hmmmmmm.
And p.s. leftist isnt the same thing as a left winger aka the left, look it up so you dont look ignorant.
Net neutrality is about as important as it gets. I dont think you know whats at stake here.
Also, stop talking about the election. We need to be united on this. Regardless of who you voted on.
Sorry S2 dont give me that both side nonsense. One party is for net neutrality the other against. I'm with the side that is for upholding a free and open internet. If it means republicans changing their outlook and doing what is right, by all means. As it stands now many are quiet on the issue. And hopefully voters will remember this.
The land of the free, where a few ignore the views of the many for $$$
Land of the free, where some are more free than others.
Yes, that's the most intolerable shame. The whole comments thing was a pure sham, a way to keep the general public docile until the last minute.
You know what else is allowed? Even UNDER Net Neutrality? Price increases. ISPs could simply double their prices across the board. Wonder why they aren't doing that right now? What is stopping them? Why would they bother with blocking, throttling, or other unpopular acts when they could simply enact a far more lucrative one? Why isn't the angry mob demanding that an unelected, unaccountable government agency swoop in and protect us from this possibility? Pure fear mongering.
Probably because the ISPs can create partnerships with other companies and divert the traffic to those partners would be far more profitable than just raising the price.
Then when these customer complain that their access is being blocked from the non partner services... "hay, your not blocked, you just not on the right price plan", give us more money and then you can access these other services.
Because they already are. Sure not everyone gets it, but cable internet companies have a long history of f'ing customers.
The way I see it now, this reason here gives them a justification as to why your bill increase and is different month per month that many already run into
Its why cable is dieing in the stztes. The groups hardest hit by this will be youtube creaters and gamers .gzmers already pony up 2cor more times to play there games
Partly because they rather get the money from other companies who then charge you more. That way ISP’s get their profits and you pay up without knowing how much of your money is actually going to the ISP. ISP saves face, you get screwed, and pay more for netflix.
If they are not afraid of ISP's throttling bandwidth and create paid fast lanes. Why not just leave the rules there regardless to have legislation to deal with it if they do?
It seems to me that what they want really is to give more power to these mega corporations when they already have too much power.
I guess the innovation they are talking about is really innovation on how to nickel and dime consumers more.
Ask a customer what innovation is and they will tell you - it's new services and good ideas to make life easier.
Ask a corporate boss what innovation is and he will tell you - It ways of making more money from the same number of customers.
Which is logical and why these rules are logical. Its crazy how they say to just trust the ISP to do the right thing for consumers. Already on my phone they blocked certain communication apps and allow others and I am starting to see specific data bundles for specific apps as well like facebook data bundles for example. This is the innovation corporate bosses loves I am sure.
I should of done something about it. God I hate myself for not doing anything to keep net neutrality 😕😿
Don't feel bad. There's absolutely nothing you could have done. This was going to happen from the moment it was first proposed by that social pariah. Commenting at the FCC site, donating money, becoming a personal activist--none of it mattered. The vast majority of responders wanted to keep net neutrality, and it made no difference. Even "the father of the internet" could not prevent this travesty.
How did the internet work before 2015?
The same as its creators intended. Open and free from restriction. Net neutrality laws simply aimed to keep it that way.
The ISP’s are trying to politicize this by acting like net neutrality was a new idea born in obama’s administration. (Knowing that whenever you label something as “obama’s” some conservatives automatically think it must be a bad thing) The truth is that we always had net neutrality. But ISP’s want to take that away. Slowly but surely.
Oh no. We have to go back to pre 2015 Internet?! The horror! The madness! I used to defend all Americans as brothers and sisters even if I strongly disagreed with them. Now I’m done, America is done. The American left are the dumbest people on the face of the earth. A fkng cancer that spreads and destroys anything they touch. Reap what you sow morons, a rotten society that’s dumber than a bag of bricks.
We always had net neutrality prior to 2015. The Net Neutrality laws were simply aimed at making sure things stayed the way they Always were. The ISP’s are spending vast amounts on lobbying campaigns so they can change that. Hope this clarifies things.
Don’t politicize this, we are all going to get screwed by this. (We already are btw)
That’s bullshit. Net neutrality is a buzzword for gullible people. I don’t want to politicize the internet. I want a free and open internet untainted by the retards in Washington DC.
You people are the ones that politicize everything. You want congress to reverse the ruling? Good. That’s what you should have done in the first place instead of using 3 unelected hacks to take over the internet using a 1930s utility law. Not everyone is a complete moron and can actually see through this shit. I’m done with you people, there is no saving you or his country. It will end in my lifetime, we are currently Rome in its final days and I’m done stressing over it. The only thing left to do is laugh at you idiots.
Im trying to educate you in good faith about something you clearly dont know about. There is nothing wrong with not knowing but its really bad if you cant even hear reason.
Net neutrality is not “just a buzz word” thats like saying any other law or Amendment is “just a buzz word”. There is a reason why we have the law. It does, in fact, exist. So just because you got your news from someone who clearly wanted to deceive you by down playing a law, it doesnt mean you should take their word for it.
Net neutrality is a joke. You boast of the dignity of law after hijacking a 1930s one to serve your own purpose. You’re upset that a power grab was rightfully squashed. You care about law when it’s convenient and burn the house down when it’s not so save the hypocrisy. I respect it more than you I’m sure.
So they, under no legitimate authority, seized legislation through regulation to “safeguard what always was”. Trying to compare NN, an agency regulation and overblown hashtag movement, to an amendment shows me how little you know about our constitution. Our rights and foundations are just laws telling the government what it can’t do to us. Limited powers, basic necessities. Trying to call pre2015 regulations “net neutrality” is a joke. Were they actually called that is or that what you call them because they conveniently worked? Shown by its limited evidence of abuse... Is that was you fought for in 2015? Something that “already was”. No you fought for faux outrage. It’s kind of classless you would use that as a defense and pretend thats being attacked. I’d say it’s shameful because you seem like a smart dude and probably know it’s bullshit but it’s the best you can do. You’re educating someone, clearly, but I know better lol.
Laugh at yourself you moron. You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Pick one - you know nothing of net neutrality and what is at stake or you are some Russian troll stirring the pot for Putin. Ironically with your preferred internet sans net neutrality (sans means without btw) we would only be able to access and see whatever 'master' wants us to. So much for free and open! Again its laughable how moronic you are.
You have hypocrisy coming out of your ears dude Russian sleeper cell! And you have the gall to call someone else a moron hahahahahaha. What a useless toadie you are. Keep fighting the good fight with your idiot articles.
Read it again. Sleeper cell lol I said you are either ignorant or a Russian troll you have to pick one. So I guess ignorance it is. I know what Net Neutrality is, so ergo in no way shape or form am I a hypocrite. I get it though, you'd burn your house down and sell your grandmother down the river if it mean offending ' teh libruls.'
Says they want a free and open intent, hands the keys over to his corporate masters. What an idiot. Excuse me 'toadie' lol
Yeah implying some sort of Russian connection tells me where your head is at. An irrational trump ragist. It tells me that you have a piece of petrified bull shit where your sponge used to be. I half kid, dude. But you talk of masters while linking your propaganda, it’s kind of hypocritical. Yes I want a free and open internet and I also know the ultimate goal of “net neutrality” as a political slogan and a utility policy. I know what the regulations were pre2015 and what we just went back to. It’s not bad at all. Basic regulations worked fine before the FCC took over the internet for no reason in 2015. There’s hardly any evidence of real blocking or throttling and those few documented cases were rectified with the regulations already on the books. It’s basically virtue signal bullshit and a power grab. I’m taking this to stop you from “future crimes”.
What this means for “taking the keys from our government masters.” Is actually a lot. What government gives up power? The successful ones. What happens when they try to control everything? We dodged a bullet of being locked into another genius plan from congress or even worse, 3 unelected people in the FCC. I don’t care which party they are. They need a new law from congress to try that again. I don’t think that authority should delegated, basic regulations are fine and none of that was lost. I think some were just kicked to the federal trade commission to actually enforce.
All data is the same, utility line right? No segregating usage. You want to dump government money (our money) into Comcast and make it so they will never fail. As long as you have regulations and complete central authority then you are fine with fascism. Like what the dems did with health insurance companies. That pretend private sector bullshit. I would rather some new tech come in and wipe out Comcast cable like the largely unregulated cellular wiped out the landline utility. I want the choice of something better and even if it takes a few more years to get to my area, it eventually will. A market finds a way. Utilities are rarely allowed to innovate because of lobbies like yours. They block innovation with endless fake government money and stupid policy, it’s just debt to subsidize an inefficient system. Ideological lobbies are the worst on all sides because it’s just emotional and not substantive in any way. They just demand reparations without a reasonable solution.
Expect an exodus of companys who refuse to pay for speed moving infrastrustures to eu or canada
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