@Jinger Scuf impact and Vantage have 4 paddles. Its the Infinity series that only has 2 paddles.

Scuf is overpriced junk.

@Jinger - yeah there are a few controllers that have 4 paddles, the article is incorrect by saying no previous Scuf model has had 4. But none of them have these new "Sax" buttons, those are brand new.

I've been told that Scuf controllers have a lot of issues and they don't stand behind them. A lot of playes have recommended Battle Beaver controllers instead. Me personally, I use a standard controller with a set of Modsticks I installed.

I don't get either side of this argument. My hands work with both as I assume the hands of most others does as well. It's really just preferences that typically amount to being more comfortable holding something larger, thumbstick feel, and the like. Placement can be overlooked after 8 hours of gaming as muscle memory kicks in and starts taking care of the rest.

Omg, it's the old "symmetrical hands" argument.

My hands are symmetrical, too.

That is a ridiculous argument. If you like it better, fine, but it has nothing to do with your hands being the same.

Try quickly hitting a D Pad direction on a PS4 controller with your right hand so you don't have to stop moving with the left stick and then come back and tell me how superior that design is.

Patent had nothing to do with it dirk... it was more about comfort and use. Sony initially treated analog as an afterthought in response to N64 having a central analog stick. They did not want to compromise the existing games on the market by switching placement of the dpad with a thumbstick so they put them in the lower center. They retained that design throughout the course of the PS2 and PS3 to maintain bc with previous games designed where dpad was the primary control.

I get that many just got used to that layout but it isnt ideal. you can force yourself to adapt but over long periods of time it puts stress on the tendons due to the inward nature you are forcing your thumbs to face. If you put your hands in front of you as if you are holding a controller, you find the thumbs face more forward than inward. The evolution of the controller simply moved the new standard of control (analog thumbstick) where it should be to keep your thumbs in the more forward position. Left thumb faces forward for directional movement while the right thumb faces forward for interaction.

the right thumbstick placement to the lower center is fine because that is used for looking around in certain games and still to this day is secondary to the action buttons. The whole symmetrical vs non is really pointless because you dont do the same actions with each hand or its digits. Each one is doing something independent for the other, especially when gaming.

If you care deeply about thumbstick placement... well you're just being silly because it literally doesn't matter. Every game is different in how it uses thumbsticks and buttons and you don't spend 100% of your game time using only thumbsticks, so your thumbs are going to be moving all around regardless.

Pretty much every real human I know doesn't actually give a shit, and they are fully capable, able bodied beings who find no trouble going back and forth between different controller designs. When I play an xbox game or ps game, the last thing on my mind is where the damned thumbsticks are on the controller.

If you're not disabled, you should be able to simply look at whatever controller you are given and use it properly. Just use the nerve endings in your thumbs to sense where the sticks and buttons are without even looking, most people don't have trouble with this.

A controller is a controller. If you can hold it and comfortably reach all the buttons, then the design works and specific arrangement of things doesnt really make much difference.

@tucky

My thumbs never, and I mean never collide when I'm playing on PS4. They've never collided on any of the DS controllers for the systems.

@tucky

thumbs colliding is a damn myth. I would have to put the analog sticks at the very bottom of my thumbs in order to purposely achieve that. xbox fanboy nonsense.

You must have a very hard time pushing buttons then. Are your opposable thumbs not opposable?

Takes a jab at xbox controller, then KBM lays him out cold.

@Darth&Zeref Its all about preference. While I prefer the shape of the 360 controller, the stick config is awkward for many, myself included.

@LordMaim "Your thumbs aren't in different spots on each hand, after all."
Exactly why the stick config on dualshock is kind of dumb and archaic, particularly after ps1. Do you prefer to move in three dimensions with a stick or d-pad?

@G3ng4r
Not sure what your point is. My thumbs touch the analog sticks in the same way from each side.

@strange... uhh the left stick controls directional movement, not camera. That would be the right stick (by default). Now maybe you are reversing the controls to your liking which is preference but otherwise having the left stick in the forward placement is more natural when engaging in movement while the right thumb is also forward engaging in the action buttons.