730°

Nintendo Switch: Nintendo confirms lack of retro-compatiblity

Quote: Famitsu is one of the outlets that went and asked Nintendo some questions about the Nintendo Switch. And they managed to get some pretty interesting answers!

Read Full Story >>
translate.googleusercontent.com
Abash2744d ago

They should have at least made 3DS and DS games backwards compatible.

SourtreeDing2744d ago

expected much its a new console

_-EDMIX-_2743d ago

You mean their new handheld? Have you actually seen the unit? It's a handheld, they could have easily had another port for 3DS or DS games considering it's using cartridges.

zeal0us2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

Well just because it uses cartridges it doesn't necessarily means you could pop in 3ds games and go with it. The switch cartridges look thicker than the 3DS cartridges. Plus we don't even if the switch is touch screen yet.

_-EDMIX-_2743d ago

@zea- I mean in some other part not in the same exact one but I understand what you mean

G20WLY2743d ago

Well, this just completely killed it for me. :(

I skipped Wii U as the best games were too infrequent or never came. If I can't at least play those while I wait for the Switch to get it's shit together, I'm not going to bother.

gamer78042743d ago

well the pspro and scorpio are fully backwards compatible w/ their predecessor, so its not a big leap to think the switch would be as well.

ZeroX98762743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

Isn't the Wii U in Power Architecture? The NS is probably x86 which would explain the lack of backward compatibility right now. Lots better for ports though!

indyman77772743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

"expected much its a new console" Last time I check Nintendo is king of backwards compatibility. So no we did NOT expect much. We expected what was normal for Nintendo. This totally slaps my first day enthusiasm down a lot.

If it was a Sony, or Microsoft console I would not be so hyped on backwards compatibility. Why? What is the difference? Because I have not played the Nintendo library of Many Mega JRPG titles, jrpg went to handheld and now I was thinking I could play them on a real sized screen.

Now if they say they will have digital releases of them then I would be back on full crazy for switch. Come on Nintendo you have to know people want to play your jrpg games on a screen larger than a 3dsxl.

Ol_G2743d ago

With only 1 screen people conveniently forget just to voice their misplaced opinion

kitsune4512743d ago

Day 1 backwards compatibility is only possible when the system is architecturally similar to the previous generations. Since nVidia Tegra is a significant departure from the previous SoC's, any attempts at backwards compatibility will have to come in the form of Virtual console, similar to Xbox One's BC. It is unlikely Wii U or even Wii games will ever be BC since the Switch will only be slightly faster than the Wii U and the architecture is completely different.

QUIMICOMORTAL2743d ago

well, the new MS console will be backwards compatible and you bet the nex console from sony will be as well.

darthv722743d ago

Well that is unfortunate about ds and 3ds games but it makes sense as there would only be a single screen in most respects. That of the tv or the portable. Not to mention if the portable screen even has any touch capabilities.

As for wiiu games, chances are that select games would get a patch for their digital version to be playable on the switch. It should have full virtual console support for nes, snes, n64 and even gcn and wii / wiiu games on top of its own so im not to worried.

Just want to know if it supports SD expansion, usb hdd support (for the base) and what size internal storage it has.

mikeslemonade2743d ago

lol casual gamers want it both ways. You want BC but then complain about the cost of the system. Which is it?

+ Show (10) more repliesLast reply 2742d ago
TheFirstClassic2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

Pretty sure it wouldn't work that well with this thing since there is technically just one screen working at a time. Guess they could have both screens on one screen like how emulators do ds games.

EddieNX 2743d ago

Yes and its rumoured to have a capacative touch screen which wouldn't work properly.

indyman77772743d ago

It can be like the 2DS and have a gap instead.

http://www.target.com/p/nin...

wonderfulmonkeyman2743d ago

You mean Wii and Wii U.
It may use cartridges, but it's a home console.
Still, I wouldn't have complained if it did allow 3DS games.
Well, maybe something digital in nature could work, since physical BC isn't happening...

gbsrnctaln2743d ago

ORLY? Is that why they just said that the unit with the screen on it is the main console and the dock is just a dock??? Lol monkey, I love reading your postcards from fantasyland!

wonderfulmonkeyman2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

@ GBSR & Edmix
Okay, then by your fallaciously loose definition, the Wii U was a portable console, too, because you could lug it around with a spare battery in a backpack, playing off the gamepad alone.
Having the ability to lug the guts of a home console around doesn't change the fact that it's a home console, and that the majority of Switch users will spend most of their time playing it at home.
With all of its home console quality games.

Nintendo's already confirmed that it's a home console first, portable second.
You're swimming so deep in a river of denial that you're practically drowning.

_-EDMIX-_2743d ago

Lol they just said the main device is the actual portable unit.

The dock does nothing but outs to the TV , exactly like with the leaks read and exactly like what my prediction stated a year ago that it would be a handheld that out to a TV.

The entire device all the functionality screen and everything is actually the unit you see people walking around with in the video, you know the portable...

badz1492743d ago

@monkeyman

Nintendo juat said that the tablet is the main unit and I think the system is useless without it unlike the Wii U which is usable without the tablet controller. So yeah...it's more a handheld with a TV out rather than a proper home console like Nintendo is trying to tell us here.

gbsrnctaln2743d ago

Even when its straight from nintendos mouth you dont believe it. How ironic lol

pcz2743d ago

nintendo are only saying its a home console because they dont want to put it in direct competition with the 3ds by marketing it as a handheld.

jholden32492742d ago

Right.

-plays home console games
-directly connects to TV
-has its own separate controller

Totally failing to understand how anyone would misconstrue this is a handheld. Yes it is portable- that is the whole nature of the selling point. But being portable doesn't inherently make it a handheld. This thing is console through and through, portability aside.

+ Show (4) more repliesLast reply 2742d ago
Old McGroin2743d ago

For Gods sake, it hasn't even been released yet, if yer that badly stuck try playing your old games on the systems ye bought them for.

pcz2743d ago

no BC is a deal breaker. i want to play wiiu games on the switch.

how will they have digital downloads on a console with carts? that little console is not going to have a hard drive. and if the dock does, that means you would only be able to play downloaded games at home.

DivineAssault 2743d ago

They said this is to replace the Wii U, not the 3DS.. So we might get a true handheld.. Possibly a smaller version of this with a flip screen..

Xx_Pistol_xX2743d ago

Some 3ds games have touch,gyro,camera and mic features. It would have kind of been in the same boat as the Vita TV when in docking mode. Plus we don't even know if a gyro or camera is in the switch.

TheUndertaker852743d ago

The Switch probably doesn't include touch features which DS, 3DS, and WiiU all use

-Foxtrot2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

Yeah I thought that was the whole point to use cartridges

I would like to play some 3DS Pokemon and Mario games on my TV

2742d ago
2742d ago
antikbaka2742d ago

from generation to generation they just make their fans buy the same games again and again. why would they change their mind this time?

+ Show (9) more repliesLast reply 2742d ago
MasterCornholio2744d ago

I had to rebuild the submission to make the link work.

I recommend looking at the credit URL since the translation is horrible.

pompombrum2743d ago

Well considering they already showcased Wii U games in the trailer, it's either got some form of backwards compatibility or they're releasing some remasters.

MasterCornholio2743d ago

It could be compatibility with digital Wii U games.

Summons752743d ago

there is a strong possibility that those are new games since both showed features and characters that weren't in MK8 and Splatoon. I hope they at least give us digital backwards compatibility.

Eamon2743d ago

Very likely to work with Wii U games that don't require motion controls, touch screen or dual-screen. Meaning expect to see Mario Kart and Smash Bros for Switch on launch.

PlatinumGX2743d ago

Splatoon is dual screen.

Eamon2743d ago

Well, I was referring to straight ports.

_-EDMIX-_2743d ago

I see so you have yet to hear that this is actually a handheld and it does not play discs correct?

pcz2743d ago (Edited 2743d ago )

obviously ultimate editions/game of the year editions featuring all the downloaded digital content, along with a few little extras. ie, trying to make people by the same shit all over again.

and lets face it, the games look exactly like wiiu games. ie no noticeable upgrade in graphics quality.

zelda- wiiu game

mario kart- wiiu game with bells and whistles

splatoon- wiiu game with bells and whistles

nba 2k17- big deal, a niche game outside of america where nobody gives a damn about basketball

skyrim- old game

mario switch- surprise surprise, another mario game that looks indistinguishable from galaxy and 3D world. it could have practically been either and nobody would be able to tell because we have seen it all before.

and, the sad thing is, what games they did show were probably not even running on actual switch tech, they were probably running on some pc, merely to show the games in the best possible light, for the purpose of the reveal. when the thing is actually in the wild, i'm willing to bet there is going to be a big downgrade.

i predict graphics worse than wiiu.

iTechHeads2742d ago

Remasters is probably the wrong word. More like ports. I mean this thing is using a Tegra chip. I don't even think that is more powerful than a Wii U.

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 2742d ago
vikingland12743d ago

This seem like a missed opritunity to me. 3DS & Wii U games bc would've been a nice extra. Plus it would've increased software sales because there are a bunch of 3DS titles that are fantastic. My wife plays the 3DS and I've helped her pick games for it. I would play/buy a bunch of those games if I could play on my TV.

indyman77772743d ago

You sir are a man after my own heart! My hope now is that they will at least make digital copies. I hope this translation (article ) is very off (they have been in the past and should have said the opposite).

BEASELY2743d ago

Missed opportunity. They could have kept selling the Wii U software that so many millions missed out on who will surely pick up a Switch.

iTechHeads2742d ago

But this is better though. They'll get Wii U owners to buy the Switch and buy Splatoon and all those games they loved on their wii u all over again.

Show all comments (88)
270°

Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

Read Full Story >>
theverge.com
darthv721d 1h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning775h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga12h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218311h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan6h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus235h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv725h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 5h ago
purple10115h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-4h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac14h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10113h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic11h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 4h ago
Show all comments (36)
80°

Razer Kishi Ultra Review - Remote Play and Mobile Gaming Goes XL

PSLS writes: I have traveled across the country using the Razer Kishi Ultra in airports and hotels for both PlayStation Remote Play and mobile gaming in general, and I am thoroughly impressed.

Read Full Story >>
playstationlifestyle.net
150°

Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 11h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken22h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 7h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 7h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 7h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 3h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 6h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 6h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

Show all comments (14)