i heard this a lot, but let me tell you, having more gameplay depth than the previous gow games isn't something particularly difficult. is basically a casualized dmc, yet it was never boring, unlike the new movie.

Here's the thing Nyxus, it appears that well crafted narratives are a bad thing. Especially if there's an ounce of nuance or god forbid it actually makes you reflect or see things from another perspective. You know the things that actually help us grow as human beings! I've never seen so many try to downplay the impact these games have and can have if pushed further.

Don't even start with your pseudo-philosophal approach to videogames putting everyone of us who are trying to give a point about the falacy of "videogames are art" in a sack as we have no idea of art, human condition or even philantropy. But here's the fact, hipster. Videogames are possible because of computers, you know, the human creation of mechanizing logic? Have you ever built a half-adder logic board? Have you ever tried to read binary? That's the simple yet complex logic human beings have come around with to make videogames possible, and games were one of the main concerns people tried back then with the valve. The magic word here is game. Electronics and technology only gave us an extension to keep making fun innovative and let me tell you something, if you think videogames future is becoming another expression medium and even interactive and your will is to ignore the fact that gameplay, the merely act of developing and creating new ways of having fun, deservers a second place, then you don't have an inch of an idea what videogames are and what to they mean to the human species. Videogames won't evolve because of their potential of telling stories. Telling stories won't make videogames art. The fact that you can get inspired and cry over a obviously emotional story doesn't mean that is art. A poor boy in the streets of Brazil could make anyone cry and that doesn't mean that is art. Stories can be evolved and make people 'inspire' in almost every way today, even in marketing (yeah, ironic), but that doesn't make marketing art. Do you have it now? The only thing that would make videogames evolve is gameplay, other things could help, but gameplay can never be in second place, otherwise there wouldn't be so much people arguing why this is so innovative to people and it's easy to know why: 1. they think camera angles is videogame evolution, 2. they have a lack of gameplay reference point so they put some simple dodging roll movements, some rpg elements, some enemies and bosses that are the same and they will say "gameplay and combat is the best i've ever seen" which obviously isn't something new and that's the main problem with games like TLOU and god of war, they are good games, but don't deserve to be called "best games of all time" because their focus is not on gameplay, is on story, graphics, atmosphere, etc, which are indeed great, but they just polished gameplay to be acceptable, and that can't praised, that can't be acceptable for 5 years in a row, because it's misleading of what videogames could be, there has to be variety and sony is not doing variety in gameplay for a long time yet they still are praised as the best. They are only making movies, taking movie industry techniques and nothing else. The problem with these games is that while all of you praise them by the reasons we don't care, we got bored, because they are not fun to play, they are fun to watch, to listen, to see, but not to play. And that is a fact, because i'm not the only one saying it.

Stories will only evolve stories, not videogames.
Do you think music is art because it can tell stories?
Music is art because it has developed technique over a single core: organized sound and silence
Core of videogames is not stories, is the audiovisual technique for playing: gameplay.

Anything you say. If for you those repetitive enemies and bosses scheme, the fact that you can just spam throwing the axe all the time, the fact that you cant see what's behind you, and the possibility that you can just hide and let the boi take care of it all, if for you that's the "best combat i've ever seen" i can only tell you i'm so sorry for you. Sincerely.

“spam throwing the axe” and you will die again and again. Get lost , dude. You don’t know what you are talking about.

Hahaha what???? Did you play the game on easy or something....and then complain that it’s easy 😂 you CANNOT spam the axe or you will die and the boy CANNOT kill the enemies for you on the real difficulty’s which are the give me a challenge difficulty and higher. It sounds like you wanted a challenge... so why didn’t you pick it!? 😂 and you know what, even if you can find a way in a game to just exploit it (I’m talking ANY game here) why the hell would you???? I don’t spend £50 on a game to try and exploit it and take the easiest route, I spend it to experience a great game that IS expertly balanced as everybody else in this thread can clearly see, do you get sick of disagrees? Or is that what your looking for? I can only tell you I’m so sorry for you. Sincerely.