they have nothing to show, no e3 solid info just rumors. that means there's no 2012 launch in my book, its way to early.

I don't mean with a new console, they could easily ruin Nintendo's launch by launching some major games at the same time. MS has Halo 4 coming this year and Sony has The Last Of Us, among a few others. I mean if consumers are seeing ads for Halo 4 and an Xbox 360 for around $199, why would they buy the Wii U which will almost definitely cost more.