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‘Kingdom Hearts III: Re:Mind’: An Utterly Shameless Cash Grab

Coming in at a $40 price point (!!!) Kingdom Hearts III: Re:Mind offers an 80% recycled campaign, a boss rush mode, and some other trash.

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FallenAngel19841547d ago (Edited 1547d ago )

For $30-$40, which is half the price of the game and 2/3 the price for the concert version it’s absurd how much content is recycled.

This easily should’ve been $15 like with WoFF’s Maxima upgrade. Not even FFXV’s Season Pass or Royal Pack costed as much as this and they contained 100% new unrecycled content.

What’s Square Enix thinking selling this DLC within the same price range as FFXIV’s Heavensward, Stormblood and Shadowbringers expansions?

jambola1547d ago

yeah
the second i saw 30$ my decision was made

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wwinterj1547d ago

You are aware Kingdom Hearts games have always had final mix versions for their main titles and we actually had to import the games if we wanted the extra content(unless you lived in Japan). This involved buying the game twice. This DLC is Final Mix like only this time we don't need to buy the game again. Furthermore this DLC was always advertised as elaborating on the ending games stuff because some folk didn't understand.

jambola1547d ago

@wwinterj
just because they're no longer doing an awful thing
doesn't mean it's good
If they released the FM versions for 200$ before,t hat wouldn't make 150 n acceptable price
No wonder the keep doing it, the KH fanbase are happy to be ripped off

King_Noctis1546d ago

“ This involved buying the game twice. This DLC is Final Mix like only this time we don't need to buy the game again. ”

This is similar to Pokemon Sword/Shield, which we don’t have to buy an entirely new game just to play the new stuff. But that game got sh*t on because of this kind of practice. So let not be hypocrites and praise KH here for the same practice.

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Daeloki1546d ago

@wwintwerj That's no excuse, we're not talking about a final mix now, it's not a full game, this is a DLC, and the price should reflect the content. From what we've seen, the DLC is not worth 30-40$

Juusterey1546d ago

@PlatinumKing1982

yes, it can be a bad thing
when they're splitting story off into microtransaction riddled mobile crap
or charging 30$ for a dlc that has no right to cost that much

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rainslacker1546d ago

In the meantime I just played through moxxis heist in BL3, and I ended up spending about 30 hours over 3 days playing through the campaign, and still lots of content I having done yet. All new content, and so much as I kept starting each new section I'd check the map and my heart would sink because they were so big, and plentiful. Even when you think your getting near the end of the story, they have another big long act to play through, then another.

Season pass for BL3 was as much as this dlc. I think the standalone dlc was $20.

That's how it should be done, while things like this maybe $10-15, or even free if the game sales are good.

But when you have people spending money for years on ffxv dlc which wasnt that significant most of the time, why go through all the effort?

Muzikguy1546d ago

I wouldn't have expected much less from SE honestly. I still haven't gotten KH3

FinalFantasyFanatic1546d ago

It's so bare bones on content, me and some of my friends were quite bored playing through it, I refuse to support the game via DLC or spending further money on it.

Muzikguy1546d ago

That's what I've heard and why I didn't run out to get it. I bought all the other games leading up to it too (collection on PS4). Oh well, at least those are good

RedDevils1546d ago

I bought for $20 and still find it not worth it lol

-Foxtrot1547d ago

After FFXV is anyone surprised

Best thing to do is don't support this or ANY of Square's future DLC plans, I mean it's a shame we have to support the multiple "episodes" the VII remake is going to get but lets be real no one is going to miss out on that, so the best thing we can do is focus on any dlc / expansions they do for their future releases, especially the Avengers

Hopefully if enough people just vote with their wallets, Final Fantasy XVI will be something amazing, hell maybe the next remake like VIII in the far (far far far) future might be condensed to one game, who knows what you can achieve.

Godmars2901547d ago

When have attempts at common sense against consumerism ever worked?

HeisenbergX1547d ago

FfXV had great DLC and the Royal pack was great

-Foxtrot1547d ago

You mean shit which should have been in the game since it was so unfinished

rainslacker1546d ago

Too bad the game was not finished, and missing significant chunks of story.

CDbiggen1546d ago

I will never not be butthurt about the final state of FFXV.

Daeloki1546d ago

Too bad the main game was too boring for me to even finish, so I had no interest in buyng the dlc where apparently all the good stuff was...

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wwinterj1547d ago

It seems to me you've never played a Kingdom Hearts game. If you have you should known "final mix" has always been thing with the series. Not wanting to pay more for DLC =/= the DLC should be in the game from the start too or that it's unfinished.

-Foxtrot1547d ago

Are you kidding me

The games before Final Mix were chock full of content anyway

Final Mix started off in Japan, it was ages before they came to other regions

Daeloki1546d ago

Yeah no, this is not a Final Mix, it's a DLC, and the pricetag should reflect the content, in this case 15-20$

Juusterey1546d ago

ok
how about not wanting to pay for overpriced dlc?

Daeloki1546d ago

It's really amazing how they can mess up like this, and at the same time do things so right with FFXIV. They release expansions with the same pricetag as KH3 dlc, yet the expansions are like full length games in themselves, there are additional "episodes" in the expansions, but they're included in the price.

gold_drake1546d ago

????
this has nothing to do with FF15 or any other entry.
the reason why people are pisses, is simply because the dlc answeres nothing of the mess that ki gdom hearts actually is. we were told we're getting answered but were left woth more questions, again.
30 quid is too expensive to rehash the last 3 hours of the main game and add a couple of cutscenes into it.

TimelessDbz1546d ago

You realize this has more content then kh2 final mix and it's not full price? Before you even comment check your facts.

RE mind added 1 new area , new moves, expanded story, new features, new keyblades and transformations with new shot locks ,new boss fights , new playable characters and a secret area for a boss rush .

I'll wait for you to compare any final mix game. All final mixes are charged at full price for less from you got with re mind dlc.

Juusterey1545d ago

of course it's not fll price, it's a dlc
still costs way too much for far too little

Daeloki1545d ago

It's a DLC, ofc it's not full price. And yet, the content they add doesn't come even close to being worth 30$
It's a cash grab, and a really fucking dirty move by SE. Also, you can't keep comparing to Final Mix, those are from a time when DLC wasn't a thing, they are obsolete. The only way to bring new content back then was to release a new edition of the game.

But since you like comparisons, let's compare to Witcher 3 eh?
KH3 Re:Mind - 30$ - 4-8h to beat
Witcher 3 Hearts of Stone - 10$ - 10-14h to beat
Witcher 3 Blood and Wine - 20$ - 15-28h to beat
(oh and those are prices from when they were released, and as a bonus, if you bought the season pass, it was 25$)

Juusterey1545d ago

Also, Kh2 fm had all those things

wwinterj1544d ago

You are correct. Kingdom Herats 3 now has more content than Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix. From the top of my head:
KH 2 FM
- New boss fights
- Critical Mode
- Limit Form
- Puzzle mini game
- New Heartless skins
- New cutscenes
- Theater Mode

Kingdom Heart 3 has all those save for the skins. It also now has a "dark form" and more playable characters.

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wwinterj1544d ago

@-Foxtrot
The games before final mix editions actually wasn't full of content. Kingdom Hearts 2 without Final Mix was more empty than Kingdom Hearts 3. Some folk have very selective memories it seems.

@Daeloki
This would have been added and resold as a final mix had DLC not been a thing. These days they can add extra content via DLC so that's what they did. Some of the content like new drive forms are actually free too.

Daeloki1541d ago

But DLC IS a thing, Final Mix is an obsolete concept, bringing them up as an argument is pointless, and has nothing to do with what people are complaining about.
The issue is the pricing of the DLC. It doesn't matter if in the past we would have had to pay for a whole new game, that is not something we need or should have to think about today. Based on the content, Re:Mind should be 15$ at most.

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PhoenixUp1547d ago

What dafuq Square Enix?

- Shadow of the Tomb Raider’s DLC had a $20 bundle to unlock everything in the DE version.
- NieR: Automata’s DLC was $10
- World of Final Fantasy’s DLC was $16
- Deus Ex: Mankind Divided’s Season Pass was $20
- Final Fantasy XV’s DLC was both $25 individually for the Season Pass & Royal Pack

What’s Square Enix thinking selling Re:Mind at such an exuberant price? For that amount you could get one of the HD ReMix collections or even one of Square Enix’s own other budget titles.

wwinterj1547d ago

For the price of a full game £40-£50 I could get 4-5 cheap games. What's your point?

LiViNgLeGaCY1546d ago

Man, you sure are defending this HARD!!

King_Noctis1546d ago

You haven’t answer my question in the above post. Did you defend Pokemon Sword/Shield this hard as well With their expansion packs?

Daeloki1546d ago

Man you're thick, Re:Mind is not a full game...

Daeloki1546d ago

Don't forget FFXIV expansions, which are the same price as Re:Mind, but are basically full length games

PhoenixUp1546d ago

@ ww

Are you really comparing this overpriced DLC to an entirely new game?

You fail if you seriously can’t what’s wrong with your questioning

wwinterj1544d ago

I'm saying the fact YOU pointing out you can get more things for the price of this DLC like "HD ReMix collections or even one of Square Enix’s own other budget titles" is irrelevant.

PhoenixUp1543d ago

It is relevant since a full price game is more substantial than this overpriced DLC that recycles so much content, so why try to act like the price point should be a non factor?

wwinterj1543d ago

"Are you really comparing this overpriced DLC to an entirely new game?"
"It is relevant since a full price game is more substantial than this overpriced DLC"

You are contradicting yourself and it seems we are going around in circles here. As I said I could get 4-5 games for a full price game. This doesn't stop me buying full price games though. Proclaiming you can get more for your money makes no difference to anything.

PhoenixUp1543d ago

I’m not contradicting myself.

Yes you can get multiple games for the cost of a full price game just like you could with this DLC.

However the price does not favor Re:Mind as it would with most other full priced games, so it’s more apparent that you could get another game or two for $30-$40 than you would with a full price or even budget title.

The cost of the DLC should be relevant in proportion to what it contains, and Re:Mind does not contain enough to justify that price

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Immagaiden1547d ago (Edited 1547d ago )

The only thing more egregious than this DLC being overpriced is how so much of it should’ve been in the base game, especially considering how much content in this DLC is recycled. Similar sentiment goes towards Pokémon Sword & Shield’s upcoming Expansion Passes.

I’ve seen various articles praising how these titles are bucking their series tradition of reselling the same game with new content in favor of selling you $30 DLC. However they tend to neglect how much of the content within the base game of the latest release in their respective franchise has less content than previous installments despite releasing on more capable hardware that could easily contain more content on its initial release.

I’m not a fan of selling consumers a title that feels lacking compared to its predecessors, and then after the title breaks series sales records the publisher announces some paid DLC that’s half the price of the actual game for things that should’ve been there day one and we as the consumers are supposed to be happy that they’re approaching this with “modern sensibilities.”

Not that I’d prefer the alternative, but how is that kind of practice much more of an upgrade over reselling you the same game at full price with more content, ala Persona 5: The Royal? At least the base game of P5 contained so much content it didn’t need DLC to plug in what was sorely missing in its initial release. Same could be said for the previous base mainline Pokémon & Kingdom Hearts titles before S&S and KH3.

TheGamez1001547d ago (Edited 1547d ago )

Well they can do whatever they want with dlc and charge whatever since kingdom hearts games dont come often. They know this and can take advantage of it. ReMind is so obviously an overpriced cashgrab.
I fear the same will happen pretty badly with ffviiR too, I mean we already know its already split into parts lol, im guessing only around 20hrs of finishing per part too, each $60 and probably paid dlc for costumes and maybe even story episodes....smh.

Dabigsiebowski1547d ago

remake is their last leg for me

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Kingdom Hearts III Re Mind's Yozora Boss Fight Is One Of The Best In Gaming History

The fight with Yozora in Kingdom Hearts III Re Mind could be the best boss fight in gaming history.

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Snookies121082d ago (Edited 1082d ago )

If only I could catch the DLC on sale... I just don't like the $30 price point on it.

EDIT: Wow, literally just checked after posting this and it's on sale lol... Should have checked beforehand I suppose. As a side note, calling it one of the best in gaming history is a tall order. I'm curious what other people thought about it. As I didn't want to do much research on it until I actually played the DLC

Lore1082d ago

As for the fight itself it is amazing. The pricepoint though was highway robbery

GoodGuy091082d ago

I still like the kh2 sephiroth battle the best but oh boy was it fun to figure out how to beat yozora on your own. Took me at least 50 tries to beat him lol.

OMNlPOTENT1082d ago

I mean all of the limit cut boss fights were exceptional. The base game had awful boss fights, so it was refreshing to get an entire DLC based on boss fights. It was severely overpriced, but still amazing if you want a challenge.

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The Colossal Kingdom Hearts III Soundtrack Is Finally Available To Buy

Almost two years after the game was released, the Kingdom Hearts III soundtrack has finally been officially released.

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Thoughts On Completing Kingdom Hearts 3 Re:Mind

With the Kingdom Hearts 3 Re:Mind content on the Xbox One, it is time to reflect on how one can complete what it has to offer.

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PhoenixUp1489d ago

It recycles too much content to justify its price. $30-$40 is expansion pack cost territory