Since PS2 era I have always bought the current Sony and Nintendo consoles. And I think that's a perfect pairing. They are not direct competitors to the main two and do things a bit differently, which is great (most of the time).

I think the fast ssd is a game changer if you implement it correctly. Changing the types of games possible. Current gen games are entirely limited in that regard because if a game required ssd it would not work on of ps4 or a typical gaming pc.

I don't even think Nintendo is holding Nintendo back - why, cause they are super powerful consoles? They are doing they're own thing and doing it well.

Nintendo isnt holding anything back. Their system isnt looked at as a lowest common denominator, so if a game can't run on it, its ignored, and goes to more powerful hardware

Glad other people don't think like you or I wouldn't have the best handheld ever made right now.

Agreed with your first sentence .. any day of the week !

BOTW had about a $120 million dollar budget. Yup super cheap. To figure that out. It needed 2 million to break even.

Everything you just said is wrong IMHO.
“More powerful hardware > gimmicks like the Wiiu, Wii, and 720p crap screen Switch.”
Nintendo is filling the lower budget void. I own all consoles and a gaming PC so I can play whatever I want but very few people are able to do that. The Switch is a portable so there is no way to keep the price low while giving it comparable horsepower.

“Nintendo is holding gaming back. Putting the focus on casual, low budget games, and quick buck games.”
The Switch has probably the best single player game in BotW of any console this generation. Nintendo does rely heavily on old franchises but they rarely put out bad games.

“And this coming from a developer who makes conventional and traditional games. So how does developing it on Nintendo hardware make it better? It makes the games worse.”
That depends entirely on the developer. If they choose to develop a shit port for the Switch, that is on the developer, not Nintendo. Currently playing Dark Souls on Switch which is a decent port. I wish From would have done a little more but overall a good experience.

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Nintendo started mobile with the gameboy and motion controls. And then now they are trying to argue that weak last gen hardware is okay.

Yes Nintendo is to blame for hardcore gaming demise. Since they are directly responsible for putting out hardcore games but E3 after E3 the focus is casual. From E3 2005 to 2015 it was centered on the casual audience.

Nintendo is focusing on casual gamers? So... the community continues to assert that consoles are basically PCs, yet no one can say that about Nintendo consoles; the Switch has first party titles that are easily some of the biggest time sinks of other first party studios, it receives games like The Witcher III, Final Fantasy, the Mana games, and bloody DOOM... and you think Switch was created with casual gamers in mind? I might let you say that about Wii and you'd get a bit more pushback with Wii U, but if you think Switch is a casual device, you're just ignorant.

Nintendo is the one who is continuing to push the boundaries of console gaming, and the success of the Switch is a testament to its broad appeal. They continue to do great work in exciting the market, and somehow, that's overlooked because it has less power than its competitors.

Right...

Amen!

Amen... Nintendo have been a shit-show ever since Yamauchi passed the buck.

"Nintendo is holding gaming back. Putting the focus on casual, low budget games, and quick buck games."

Yet they have 7/20 games in the highest rated games of all time... pretty much the only exclusive titles that make it. Two of those are on the Nintendo Switch.

I hate people who hate on the Switch (primarily as it's the only Nintendo console I've really invested in) when 9/10 times I could bet they don't own one and have probably not invested any real time into it. It doesn't get as much use as my PS4 but it's getting very close now and if you asked me which one I would give away I would have a hard time choosing.

casual low budget games? what are you smoking, i own all 3 consoles and by no means does nintendo have lo budget games (unless by low budget you mean Indie games, which all other consoles have).
nintendo has some of the best games this Gen, zelda, mario kart and zelda to name a few and yet you say they a low budget and casual and quick buck games, please do some research before commenting stupid stuff like this.
And to the point of you being a developer, can you not see the advantages of being able to take the game with you and continuining to play on the go?. Graphics wise might not be the best but still better than the ps3 and xbox 360 where they were upscale most of the games to 1080p.

Wow, with best games on the market, Nintendo is holding gaming back. Hmm, good :-D
This crap is what we can hear from PC gamers. They say PS and Xbox are cheap crap and are holding gaming back.

But its nonsense. Companies like Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are pushing gaming forward! With PSVR there are more reasons for companies to develop VR games, etc...

I've never read something so stupid on the internet, I swear

I agree, Nintendo are the kings of "putting lipstick on a pig" and that includes hardware AND their games!

Most nintendo game are from nintendo partner...exept some port af actual gen game.For me...console are holding gaming back with their weak hardware but solid fan base.Nintendo dont force anybody to devlop on their hardware.

Nintendo is consolidating, streamlining.... Instead of mass producing 2 different units, they have consolidated it into one. We all know they never favor cutting edge hardware, when you dock the switch its 1080 , as a handheld its 720. The system is a culmination of their work since the gamecube days. They have always marched to their own drummer. They dont hold gaming back , I think they just ask to be a part of it.

Your nothing but a Nintendo hater. Grow up!

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Being able to play 4 extra hours a day on the go on top of my game time at home > resolution any day. There is nothing gimmicky about being convenient for core gamers with limited time.

Thats why I buy all multiplats on my Switch, and do not regret it. For the few must have games on the other consoles, I have a PS4 Pro for those so unlike someone who writes having more than one console off, there is nothing I cannot play. I have 8 exclusives for Switch pre ordered right now just for second half of 2019 with Witcher 3 (already played on PS4, will play again on Switch), DOOM Eternal, Wolfenstein Young Blood, and Dragon Quest XI mixed in there as well. There is plenty to keep me busy on Switch making me much more picky with what I buy on PS4.

Options never hurt anyone, learn that not all gamers have the same needs.

hmmmmmmm Nintendo, just like the other consoles has very few causal games. Your thinking wii which is two generations ago.

The Switch is incredible and the Wii was revolutionary. Nintendo is the company that pushes what games can be the most of any of the 3 major companies. Not everyone only cares about having the most powerful consoles and that’s not all that makes a console valuable.

And before you call me a fanboy, I love Sony just as much if not more than Nintendo and my 3 favorite games of all time are all PS games

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At the person who said Nintendo have 7/20 of the highest rated games this generation. Nintendo last gen so they’re not graded on the same standard. You subtract 4-6 points per gen. An IOS that scores a 10 isn’t the same as a 10 on Witcher 3. It’s harder to score higher on proper current gen platforms.

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So you use Witcher 3 as an of example of a 10/10 current gen game as an argument for Switch being a generation behind...when Witcher 3 is about to launch for the Switch itself...

Troll logic 😏

Movefasta1993 - You can't write a game that specifically uses the SSD to load assets in the game world. Not every PC has one. Also Cerney said it'd be faster than ones currently on the market. We will see how this translates into better looking games in 2021.

I don't' think that is correct, next gen SSD will be faster than current PC access speeds and it will also find its way into PC's as well.

It's going to change the game for me. I hate load screens.

What PC had for years....right, but not in the hands of SONY. Prepare to see a magic show!

PC is held back by the fact that not everyone has the latest hardware and developers have to code for the least common denominators or they risk alienating customers and losing sales.

With the next consoles using SSD's it should give a bump to gaming overall as developers won't have to hold back so much for lower power systems as they can recoup the costs from consoles instead of the PC gamers with low end systems.

I'm hoping anyway.

Agreed, PC gaming already offers dynamic lighting, realistic clothing, realistic hair (flowing hair), etc. The consoles are barely catching up. By then it will be too late with VR advancements on PC.

If its more of the same that'll be 3 gens in row of the same AI, fetch quests etc.

Faster loading plus exceptionally fast virtual memory.

In other words, more of the same. My point is that an SSD is not revolutionizing gaming as we know it but merely improving it marginally. This next gen will be more of the same games with the same controls and the same lengths. Let me know when augmented reality comes along to really change the game.

Plateau doesn't mean they won't get better overall, just that realistic is an art style, and while PS3/360 gen started a point where that was more possible, it was still limited, just as it is this gen. it doesn't mean that things in the photo-real department haven't plateaued from a style perspective. It's not like pixel art, where more power allowed for different kinds of pixels and sprite make ups. Or earlier 3D gens where it allowed for more complex models. Models for next gen aren't significantly different than they were from this or last gen. They're just more vertices and polys, and the textures are more detailed. More can be drawn at once, but the core of what they are is the same. Newer gens can allow for things like better animations, or even some things like raytracing can enhance the realism, but that doesn't mean that things are signifiantly different, and that a game or object designed for next gen, wouldn't be possible in a very similar way, which may be indistinguishable, to what can be done this gen.