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Microsoft’s hasty, brave Project xCloud demo can’t handle the pressure - Digital Trends

DT: “Microsoft brought Project xCloud, its upcoming cloud gaming service, to E3 2019. I played Halo 5 and Hellblade: Senua's Sacrafice on a smartphone powered by an xCloud server hundreds of miles away. It worked, but it wasn't magic. here are first impressions of Project xCloud.”

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Spurg1773d ago (Edited 1773d ago )

"Microsoft botched the announcement of Project xCloud at E3 2019."
They only mention what we already knew and also also how an Xbox can act to stream on devices.
If it not ready then it's not ready. No need to jump the gun like Google did with stadia.

I haven't heard any negative review of Xcloud, this is coming out of nowhere.

Double_O_Revan1773d ago

Yea, everything I've heard so far is that XCloud works better than Stadia.

demonicale1773d ago

Not sure where you've heard that? Besides, Stadia doesn't use a "console" so I don't think you can compare them. I'm a long time Playstation and Xbox fan and i'm sold on Stadia!

SegaGamer1773d ago

@Demonicale

You don't need to use a console for Xcloud either. You can if you like, but if you don't want to buy a console, you can just stream it from Microsoft's data centre. So they can be compared, because they are basically the same thing, the Microsoft version has many extra benefits though.

Notellin1773d ago (Edited 1773d ago )

@demonicale Well then you can stand by yourself. I consider myself a hardcore gamer with all 3 consoles and a PC I built myself. I was in the Stadia beta with Assassin's Creed and will never use that garbage.

I have gigablast internet and the graphics were muddy and the input lag was horrendous.

Maybe in the future but I'm not paying for an online only inferior experience that taxes my internet. I don't think any hardcore gamer is sold on Stadia. Maybe the casual crowd will give it a shot.

meep3161773d ago

Almost everything Google does is complete garbage, they just use their information monopoly to help sell it anyway.

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Codedan1773d ago

They need to have mass scale feedback to see if it is ready just like wit Stadia.

shiva11773d ago

Did google start beta for stadia and got mass scale feedback?

meep3161773d ago

google already had a beta for stadia under a different name, it was awful.

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Zeref1773d ago

I think the only reason they didn't talk more about xCloud is because they knew gamers wanted to see games at E3 instead of techtalk.

I think we'll get a lot more info at Gamescom and more at XO19
It releases in preview in October so we're bound to find out more soon enough.

rainslacker1773d ago

I think the reason they didn't talk about it much is because no matter what they say at a conference, it's going to meet the same criticisms that have existed for years now.

There is no way to overcome that, and promising the world for what will be a very subjective to the users with variables out of their control, doesn't make much business sense

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darthv721773d ago

It wasnt botched... they said come try it for yourself on the show floor. That is the opposite of botched seeing as it was real world demos to play. They didnt have to say anything more, just letting people experience it for themselves is the perfect way to handle it.

Brave_Losers_Unite1773d ago

Cloud gaming in itself is a negative

xRacer74x1773d ago

Streaming in general is not going to be the best experience. I will stick with the data on my HD playing at 4k.

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SephirothX211772d ago

It's amazing how threatened people feel regarding Stadia. Interesting how people keep bringing it up in comments when they don't care for it. @Notellin Your experience has not been the experience of most people and I suspect you're just lying. Below 70ms latency is needed for streaming shooting, racing and combat games without noticable input lag. Google has figured out a way to stream with this latency. The problem is vr games. They require no higher than 20ms latency. That's where middleware solutions like Orion will come in.

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Fluttershy771773d ago (Edited 1773d ago )

Many problems to solve. Joystick + device feels clunky (never though before that Nintendo actually found a solution to this), The Hellblade demo was bad (3rdP) and how can you make 3rdPs in general to embrace X-cloud, interface issues even with Halo and Gears, Lag, Freeze... I mean if you have all these problems in a showcase - which only purpose of existing is to sell you on the idea, and in ideal conditions (great internet at the very least? if not why even show it?)- What will happen when the real thing comes out?

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rlow11773d ago

Well if you base your assumptions on just one review of the experience then you don't have the full picture. From what I've read from different sites, its works but not flawless yet. Even phil said it' not for everyone and still needs work...but its the early day for this type of tech.

Spurg1773d ago

'Text and fine UI elements are too small on the smartphones. I found myself stuck in a dead-end hallway while playing Halo 5. Except it wasn’t a dead end. The end of the hallway was an elevator but, because the on-screen prompt to activate it was so small, I had to scour the area before I noticed it"

Well, that tends to happen when you rely too much on on screen prompts.

franwex1773d ago

Hahah. True. Though they may have to start designing games that play well on both big screens and small screens now.

rainslacker1773d ago

Heck, some devs have a problem designing these elements for the big screen. I've seen quite a few games this gen which make the text so small, or the worst....have an aiming reticule that you can't see because it's too small, and white, so if the screen is anything other than a dark color, you dont know where you're aiming.

Ricegum1773d ago

You love defending Microsoft.

Pickledpepper1773d ago

Back again in another Xbox article. @ricegum
I've lost count how many times I've seen you comment in Xbox articles. If I didn't know any better, I'd say you are a secret Xbox enthusiast.

SyntheticForm1773d ago

And you love trashing Microsoft. I get it, you're having fun, but you're always telling people to let other people enjoy things. Seems kinda... well, you know... you know...

lazyboyblue1773d ago

Difference is Microsoft aren't relying on Xcloud like Google are with Stadia. They're not charging us a premium for it either.

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Microsoft is experimenting with ad views for access to hundreds of Xbox games

Free games? In THIS economy? Well, in exchange for your eyeballs at least. (Figuratively, not literally... although don't give them ideas.)

What you need to know

• Microsoft Gaming CFO Tim Stuart recently described how in the future, you may be able to view ads to gain access to Xbox Game Pass.

•Recent Xbox Series X|S code strings we've seen seem to corroborate this, with the ability to earn 15 minute blocks of Xbox Game Pass access in exchange for watching ads.

•Game Pass across PC, Xbox, and Cloud features hundreds of games in exchange for a low monthly fee.

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darthv72135d ago

Hmm..... I used to earn GP by way of searching with Bing but I hear the rewards program is being revamped. I still earn points but it seems they did change the amount you get per search. I dont know how i feel about this. It sounds like they are going the Youtube route where right in the middle of something you are enjoying, an ad pops up and you have to sit through it (if it does not have a skip option after 5 seconds).

I pay for my GP access, so this wouldnt really bother me but I can see it affecting plenty of others. It reminds me of the rumor about how some game companies (EA, Ubisoft) were toying with the idea of running ads before you ever get into the game. Like the old days of renting movies from Blockbuster and not being able to skip the previews (yes, some DVD had a non skip option for previews). I pay for stuff so i wouldnt have to deal with ads, but even now they are encroaching the very things i pay a premium for.

This whole thing is just..... a bad idea.

purple101135d ago

I remember those dvds with non-skippable adds! Wow that takes me back.

Plague-Doctor27134d ago

@babadivad

Yup. You'd have to pop in the DVD before going to the bathroom, grabbing a snack, etc

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shinoff2183135d ago

Such a shame cause even if you don't think this is a big deal what's next they put ads on ultimate gamepass and the free one gets more. This is disgusting. Yes even if Sony goes this route I'll feel the same. We got enough ads in this world ffs

purple101135d ago

Some recent studies show the average person sees 4000 adverts a day

ChasterMies134d ago

The average person should start using ad blockers.

ChasterMies134d ago (Edited 134d ago )

“even if Sony goes this route I'll feel the same”

This isn’t a “both sides” issue. Sony has never had ads on the PlayStation Home Screen but Microsoft has laden Xbox’s Home Screen with ads since the Xbox 360. Microsoft has put ads on Windows 11 OS! Microsoft is basically the bad guy from “Ready Player One”.

shinoff2183134d ago

I know that hence the key word If. Sonys never given an indication of this where as ms definitely has.

Christopher134d ago

I mean, it's not never, but it's not like Xbox. Sony has promoted things with icons on the XMB, it's just really rare.

EvertonFC134d ago

They could do GP free with ads, GP £20 per month without ads, which one would the casual/hardcore choose ?

Christopher134d ago

"Hi, we've received your comment submission. Please watch this 30s ad to finalize and publish your comment to N4G.com. Thank you."

We're just having our eyelids forced open more and more every day it feels like.

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ApocalypseShadow135d ago

You don't say?/S

You mean the company that puts ads on the dashboard, tried to force a camera on Xbox One to push ads is experimenting with ads for game pass access? No. You must be joshing. Lol

Wouldn't put it past them.

crazyCoconuts134d ago

Getting people locked into subs and advertising to them is what passes as innovation at Microsoft.
At least they're keeping Sony on their toes with the threat of competition

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Microsoft Launches New Bing Feature Making Xbox Cloud Gaming Supported Titles Playable via Search

Microsoft has launched a new Bing feature that lets you experience Xbox Cloud Gaming supported games just by searching for it.

Profchaos561d ago

Microsoft still trying to get us to start using bing and I'm still not buying it

darthv72561d ago

It's not a bad way to earn points. Esp if you do a lot of searching for stuff. I haven't had to pay for Gamepass in over a year because i am constantly earning enough points to pay for it. I've had upwards of 161k lifetime points and currently only 2k away from another free month of GPU.

Profchaos561d ago

Do you do a lot of searching because bing can't find anything on the first go? /S

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Play Halo Infinite, Deathloop, and More with Xbox Cloud Gaming on the Logitech G CLOUD Handheld

At Xbox, we’re always looking to make gaming available to more people in more ways. So today, we’re announcing that Xbox Cloud Gaming will be available in more places with the Logitech G CLOUD Gaming Handheld when it launches in North America on October 17.

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darthv72581d ago

I can pretty much do the same thing with my steamdeck. I get that MS doesn't need to make their own dedicated portable... not anymore. this unit for $300 looks to be pretty decent for other stuff as well, not just xcloud gaming.

crazyCoconuts580d ago

Fact that you could get a steam deck for $100 more and play a wide variety of games without an awesome network connection... Dunno, this device could be ok for around the house I guess, but for a lot cheaper imo. Like $150

XiNatsuDragnel581d ago

I see very interesting but xbox portable would probably be better imo

Sgt_Slaughter580d ago

The portable market is dead unfortunately. Phones pretty much ended that as we know it. Going from 150M+ units sold for the DS to only 75M or so for the 3DS is why Nintendo combined markets, Phones chewed right into it.

crazyCoconuts580d ago

I agree with you for the most part, but the switch has been really successful and I think I read somewhere that hardly anyone plays it docked, so it's not being used as a hybrid but I could be wrong.
You're right in that the market is WAY smaller than it used to be

crazyCoconuts580d ago

It would be even better for MS to make GamePass/MS store work on the steam deck. That way you're not locked into just their marketplace. But for an Xbox fan (I don't mean this in a bad way) I can see how a windows based portable that just plays PC game pass/MS store games would be a neat thing indeed

darthv72580d ago

to your comment above, I dont play my oled switch docked. to me its a waste of that screen. If i want to play docked i will use my sons regular switch model.

UltimateOwnage581d ago

Cloud gaming on a handheld, hard pass... Cloud gaming is still pretty terrible even on a dedicated, cable connected device let alone one connecting over wifi. Sounds like someone in charge at Logitech loves the buzz word “cloud” and demanded a handheld be made regardless of whether it was a good idea. I’ll stick with my steam deck.

saint_seya580d ago

Well it works great for me. I guess on cloud gaming depends on your net, servers and how far are you from servers. Dunno where the servers are located here in Argentina, but works great for me, feels like is faster response time than playing regular games online with 50-60 latency.

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