It's not EA's fault. It's people. When there is a billion dollar industry on games as service, dlc's and MT's then you would be stupid as a company to not try to capitalize on that.

But people keep buying and spending money on it.. So EA is actually smart.. If someone was willing to give you money for that stuff would you not wan to sell it? Blame the gamers that are dumb enough to keep buying this crap

They don't care about what people want, it's what earns them the most money; if one person was going to give them a trillion dollars, they would make a product specifically for that one person. Apparently these 'whales' spend on average £25 a month in microtransactions. These folk make up a small % of players, but at the same time a huge % of revenue.

I hate these addicts, they can't control themselves. I know you can say 'oh but it makes them happy', so does being smacked out of your mind on heroin. At the same time, I have no sympathy for them, they deserve to have money sucked out of their wallets by other greedy bastards. They're actively ruining videogaming for us whom actually like playing it for the art that it can be.

well said, papa!

The thing is, rational people like yourself *must* only exist in relatively small numbers, on websites like these - because it's all I seem to read online, and yet the statistics show that in general, people incessantly endorse this shitty business model.

Absolutely bang-on about the engagement model too... It's just another word for slot-machine tactics, everyone is a potentially-constant income stream

@eazy

I wouldn't say it's small numbers. With the number of "engaging" games coming out, some are destined to flop.

Realistically, the model really only benefits well known and popular franchises...Or those that can put marketing to get it noticed. The same thing happened on mobile before there was the fallout where it became exceedingly hard to get investment for new games.

Some new ideas may do well...like pubg or fortnite, but barring new genres being born, which is rare, many of these games are going to fail miserably as the market becomes more crowded.

I recommend playing Unravel 1 and 2, Fe, Titanfall 2, A Way Out... These are some of their recent good games.

Yeah I remember that. Pre-order from me back in the day. Pretty awesome game.

But the SP in Titanfall 2 was fantastic. Who cares if it has MP on it as well, just don't play it.

I skipped Fe because of highly mixed reviews. Titanfall 2 is not a "single player only" game like I stated. And I don't have unravel, if I do it'll be the first one from ps+ if it was ever free.

It's this kind of attitude like yours that pretty much got us in the current mess we find ourselves in... stop poisoning the bloody well. He said he wants to support proper games, does someone need to explain this to you? if you are a handicapped then sorry in advance

@Activemessiah

What mess would that be? I am enjoying the games that are coming out these days. I said just because he doesn't like a game doesn't make that a non-proper game. Does someone need to explain to you what a videogame is? If you are a pathetic friendless neckbeard living in your mommy's basement then sorry in advance.

You see, I can be an insulting jackass too. However, I would rather stick to the point. I would never call any game "not a real game" just because it isn't a game I want.

Games like GoW being the future sounds great, and all the games you listed are amazing- but I don’t think you have to go as far to lump all non-single-player games into the ‘not real games’ category

I mentioned online co-op and sure not all games should be lumped together but this is where common sense comes into play. It doesn't take much to see soulless cash grabs!

Part of this is a generational divide too. Some young gamers who began gaming with mobile are comfortable with this MT laden business model. People don't think twice about spending very small amounts of cash such as $1 or $5. Whereas $60 or more people think twice about that purchase. Ultimately often times people spend more than $60 for a game but do it in very small chunks and don't notice it. The gaming marketplace sure has changed. Lots more non-traditional gamers out there now thanks to mobile. Good or bad they don't read gaming sites and they just don't care about the industry.

@fiveby9

You make a good point. Gaming has become more mainstream and socially acceptable. I think that is because more and more games have developed a social aspect. I would have thought of myself as a traditional gamer, seeing as I have been gaming for over 30 years but I have grown and changed as gaming has. I think it is about more than just mobile. The internet, twitch, youtube... all these things have contributed to the shift from "traditional" gamer to "modern" gamer.

That doesn't mean that there isn't room for both, however. The problem for some people is, they can't and won't accept that the world is bigger than they are. It's a beautiful place, filled with people who enjoy different things or enjoy the same things differently.

Let's face the fact here, most of the people on this site don't care about the industry. Otherwise, they wouldn't bitch and complain about the games out there that are doing well despite not being the game they want. If they truly cared about the industry, they would be happy with every gaming platform doing well, not just their plastic box of choice, or their preferred developer, or what have you.