FBI pressures Internet providers to install surveillance software

C Net: The U.S. government is quietly pressuring telecommunications providers to install eavesdropping technology deep inside companies' internal networks to facilitate surveillance efforts.
FBI officials have been sparring with carriers, a process that has on occasion included threats of contempt of court, in a bid to deploy government-provided software capable of intercepting and analyzing entire communications streams. The FBI's legal position during these discussions is that the software's real-time interception of metadata is authorized under the Patriot Act.

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lastofgen2882d ago

If it serves to really prevent us from acts of terrorism and danger, then I'm all for it, but I can see how this will anger the public.

blackmanone2882d ago (Edited 2882d ago )

Wow, just wow. You do realize you're more likely to die from a cow than a terrorist attack, don't you? I don't see you willing to throw away your rights to prevent cow's on American soil.

Unfortunately lastofgen isn't alone in this thought. Most people don't want freedom. They want safety. And some, like lastofgen, are happy with throwing rights out the window for "supposed" safety.

Shad0wRunner2882d ago


My God...what is wrong with people in this country?! o_O

KingPin2882d ago

right...because terrorists are using american ISPs for their internet. SMH

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Reborn2882d ago

"If it serves to really prevent us from acts of terrorism and danger"

I understand the scares that come with the word 'terrorism". However, its been used to manipulate that exact fear too many times. If they want something done, they simply throw the word terrorism in there, and they automatically have global acceptance for whatever they'll do.

It's wrong. The downside is that it will eventually piss off so many people, and when their is a genuine reason, it will get shot down instantly.

lastofgen2882d ago

I do understand what you're saying, but what if something bad does happen and we could have prevented the event by permitting this surveillance?

That's just a scenario I'm afraid of. Then, of course, the public would be more open and comfortable with the idea of surveillance. I suppose it's a tricky situation either way.

PFirefly2882d ago

Its not a tricky situation at all. Even if 100k people died in the US from "terrorism" over the next 10 years, that's no reason to take away the constitutional rights of the other 99% still alive.

MidnytRain2882d ago


At the same time, if 100k people DID die, would you say, "Oh well, least the government didn't read my last email. That would have been embarrassing!"?

lastofgen2882d ago


So, you're willing to potentially sacrifice an unspecified number of lives for privacy concerns?
I mean, unless you're a terrorist yourself, you really shouldn't have anything to worry about, right?

But if it's strictly rights you're talking about, then, well...I can understand, but I still believe that saving lives is more important than personal issues with privacy.

Anyways, let the disagrees come.

blackmanone2882d ago

I don't like to say people's opinions are wrong, but I weep for the small minds that believe this shovel-ware the government feeds them.

fei-hung2882d ago

There is a huge flaw with your logic and most gullible people have this:

Terrorists wont use email or the net then in traditional ways. they will use it from disposable phones, internet cafes etc

The only people being tracked and monitored will be the average citizens living their day to day lives.

This is typical Big Brother state mentality. Scare the shit out of people, take their rights away, watch over everything they do, simply because you cant monitor your enemy, and you don't understand what you are dealing with.

Furthermore, if you are concerned with safety, understand this, when Big Brother states are imposed on people, regular people will always fight back in some way shape or form. What if tomorrow a group of people get sick of being treated like puppets and start up a rebel up rising against their government? What about safety then?

If the FBI was really concerned with security for their country and you really valued the lives of human beings, you would first be asking them to discontinue the drone war program immediately. Every time an innocent family or community is killed in Afghanistan or any other "stan," someone is vowing revenge for having their family taken away. i.e. the very government concerned with your security is putting you at risk for their own stupidity.

PFirefly2882d ago

Would I sacrifice an unspecified number of people for freedom? Let me put it to you this way: I would willingly choose to die in a terrorist attack that these measures might have prevented. I would die happy knowing that the family and friends who survive me are not living in a police state.

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dilawer2882d ago

There go all my Perv searches on Google xD

Lord_Sloth2882d ago

I don't think the feds will mind you searching porn unless it's like...kiddy porn or somethin.

dilawer2882d ago

phew! thanks for sharing that. I'm not into Kiddy porn gladly. :D

kingPoS2882d ago (Edited 2882d ago )

I'm loosing count of the number of things we've lost under the guise of 'terrorism'

Remember fifteen years ago when airport screenings were a simple thing. Now take a look at today's Airports. Such through personal searches are so common place no one so much as blinks an eye at the obvious overtness present today.

I'd rather not have the things I things I enjoy whittled away by a self serving corporation, political party or government body

blackmanone2882d ago

Agreed. My biggest fear is this next generation. They are growing up without half the freedoms the generation before had. Once their rights start to become stripped away, what's going to be left? People like lastofgen are going to have their head in the sand and wonder what happened.

SnakeCQC2881d ago

I have a friend who refuses to travel to america because he is asian and fears being illegally renditioned by some idiot working. I kind of share his fear when 70 percent of the guantanamo inmates have been released without charge and most of the remainder looks like they will be free too.

RE_L_MAYER2882d ago

Terrorists you better stop that terrorism stuff otherwise it a big brother united states edition

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