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Bethesda Has Harsh Words For Sony Over PlayStation's Cross-Play

On this week's dumpster fire edition of The Trophy Room: A PlayStation Podcast, hosts Joseph and Kyle talk about say Bethesda has harsh words for Sony. Even going far enough to say that games like Elder Scrolls: Legends wont be on PlayStation unless Sony changes their ways on Cross-play and cross-progression. Bethesda, seemingly dropping single player games like Dishonored, for a multiplayer focus. TimeSplitters is hopefully alive again, and in the arms on THQ Nordic. Doom Eternal gets us hyped, yet slightly worried. Lastly, the gang talks about their thoughts on the Latest Red Dead Redemption news!

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jairusmonillas2077d ago

Bethesda has been anti-sony for over a decade. Releasing buggy games, whining over ps3/ps4 versions of their games. They will do anything MS asked them to do. lol

roadkillers2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

I am with Bethesda, why not make cross-play a thing? I understand Sony's stance, but if enough people are against their stance we will get crossplay. It is a shame that I want to play a free game with my friends, but have to pony up hundreds.

Edit: its not just that either, friends like Halo so they got an Xbox, I enjoy steam so i have PC, other guy enjoys Turismo so he got a PS4... One of my buddies has a Switch, but idk if that supports crossplay. Let us play together while your on top Sony, don't wait until you fall again to make huge changes (ps3).

zackeroniii2077d ago

Sony falling? Have you been under a rock? Check the statistics sony and ps4 is at the top of the food chain and I know for a fact it's only the people without a PS4 that's crying about crossplay...I'm not, and neither are other PS4 owners...it's a fake issue created by people who don't own one. A PS4 is cheaper than a PC and Xflop, sooooooo.....

sampsonon2077d ago

the only people against sony are people that made the mistake in buying an xbox.
PS owners could care less.

kayoss2077d ago

Play together? Most of the games you listed are exclusives to their respected console? How are you going to crossplay Gran Turismo with Xbox players??

BLAKHOODe2077d ago

Excellent perspective on the cross-play argument and I can relate. I play Fortnite on PS4 and Xbox One, because I have friends on each console and I like playing with ALL my friends, not just some of them. So I buy 2 BattlePasses every season, doing twice as many challenges just to keep up with my friends.

Of course, people who don't have this problem, who are happy with what friends they have on their system of choice won't care, nor even consider their own situation could change some day and they may end up in a similar situation, which is why it's smart to fight for cross-play NOW while it's a hot subject instead of later.

BLAKHOODe2077d ago

@kayoss

He was pointing out that some of his friends are on one console because of exclusives, while other friends are on another console because of it's exclusives. And that he would have to buy both consoles in order to play with all his friends; particularly in multiplatform games.

DarXyde2077d ago

If enough people were against their stance, sales would have suffered and prompted Sony to react. That has yet to happen, and i think as long as they continue to make great games and offer great content on their consoles, they probably won't ever need to.

I cannot speak for everyone, but i really don't care about cross play. I get why people want it, but it's such a nonissue in my opinion. I had zero expectations of it happening on any platform. It's cool to see it happening, but as I've said in another comments section, I feel it is a feature people will request and rarely use. I also think it's far more complicated for Sony; PS4 shares quite a bit of its library with Xbox One. I'm not sure what kind of demand that much intersectionality will place on the network(s), but I expect that there will be demands and pressure on developers to take advantage of this and maintain server activity. I'm not sure this is rightly feasible, to be honest. I imagine cross play with Switch should be manageable. In that case, Sony can do it, but again, not something i would take advantage of. If you do, more power to you, but like I said, i doubt it'll be as popular as critics may suggest.

My two cents.

jimbost792077d ago

Thats the thing tho mate, enough people arent against it. The vast majority dont know or care about it.
Microsoft charges people to play free games don't they?

Atanasrikard2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

@kayoss

Read his words carefully. He is talking about his situation. He has friends who have xbox, he has a pc, another friend has PS4 and one of them has a switch. He isn't talking about those games specifically. He is however, talking about being able to play with those friends in other games.

@sampsonon

I was against MS last gen when they did it. I am against Sony this gen while they do it. I am more than happy with my purchase of an xbox. I am sorry you are such a fanboy.

Kumakai2077d ago

Because Sony can do no wrong to Kool-aid drinking fanboys.

zombiewombie2077d ago

They do have crossplay. Generally with pc.

AspiringProGenji2077d ago

Yeah Sony. People didn’t support your product but still want the ability to play with Ps4 owners. It is not Sony’s fault your friends pur Halo first than playing with you, or the other way around

BlackTar1872077d ago

@blakhood

So what? Stop with this entitlement crap.

Skull5212077d ago

Well the good news is Sony has strong first party games, they’ll need it as they loose 3rd party support as companies find they can’t offer the experiences and features they want on the PlayStation platform.

UnHoly_One2077d ago

You guys need to realize that this site is so far up Sony's rectum that they can't see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore.

Go ANYWHERE else on the internet and see what other communities have to say about cross play.

Everyone that isn't a blind fanboy wants them to do it.

Silly gameAr2077d ago

@Un-holy one
Can you be more specific in what sites to go to to see people up in arms about cross play, because anywhere else I go , it's mostly a meh on the subject.

And, this site definitely isn't up Sony's butt, but you can keep pretending that thats the case if it helps you sleep at night.

Theknightofnights2077d ago

@Silly gameAR

You really think there isn't a large preference for Sony on this site? We can monitor this pretty easily with just the upvote process.

If one writes a comment "Xbox sucks" or "Nintendo sucks" (or any combination therein) they'll receive a copious amount of agrees (and often more agrees than disagrees) before eventually being flagged.

If one writes a comment "Playstation sucks" it will receive a HUGE amount of disagrees (outnumbers the agrees 10 to 1 easy) before being flagged.

There was an article written by 10th Rider with a few examples of this. Just like Nintendo Everything has a Nintendo bias among it's community, this site has a Sony bias.

PurpHerbison2077d ago

Everything comes full circle. Sony will eventually fall. The new leader will capitalize on their mistakes and get comfortable. While comfortable that new leader will start making mistakes and Sony will slide back in again. Rinse. Repeat.

roadkillers2077d ago

Look at my disagrees and agrees, for a community that is largely behind Sony there are a decent amount of people finding the lack of crossplay an issue. The ratio is above 25%. The other group doesnt care which way, so why not work with us. Customers, literally the 89 who disagreed with me have 0 to lose, but more to gain from crossplay. It just doesn make sense to go against it unless you own Sony stock.

AspiringProGenji2077d ago

Every site you go you find most not caring. You @Unholy keep accusing this site of being pro sony with those nasty words of yours as usual. Why are you still here?

Moreover this game is nothing to be making s big fuss about. Even if Sony allowed it it won’t change nothing, or are people suddenly gonna care like with Minecraft?

neomahi2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

An Xbox fanboy wanting to see the demise of Sony would say this, not a legitimate gamer. It's an attempt to feel better about themself.

scofios2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

Roadkillers

FYI
Last gen
1WII
2 PS3
3 XBOX360

Next time Check your fact first before posting bullshit.

ThanatosDMC2077d ago

Tell all your friends to buy a PS4. Problem solved.

kingfortoday2077d ago

Where were your tears when Sony was the one asking for cross play lmao

badz1492077d ago

@Skull521

"...they’ll need it as they loose 3rd party support as companies find they can’t offer the experiences and features they want on the PlayStation platform."

LOL wake up, kid! stop dreaming. can you please give us just 1 multiplat game that has sold more copies on the Xbone since they announced they openly support cross-play? just 1! anything? FYI, your internet is not playing or messing with you and your searches because there really is NONE!

and just because MS is desperate to expand their player pool by offering cross-play, all those 3rd parties are gonna skip the platform that is gonna sell their games the most?? LOL who would be so dumb?

Old_Prodigy2077d ago

NEWSFLASH!!! PS3 Outsold Xbox 360, time to rejoin reality. http://www.vgchartz.com/ana...

DarkKaine2077d ago

Not sure how you're getting downvotes but you're absolutely right.
Crossplay should be a thing and should have been a long time ago.
Anyone that doesn't agree is trying to defend their purchase for whatever reason and lack the ability to to understand that these practices are very anti-consumer.

Pickledpepper2077d ago

I have all xbox consoles I also have all ps consoles even all nintendo consoles apart from the n64 at the moment. I would like cross play please

Pickledpepper2077d ago

I own and game on all platforms and really would like cross play. Would be a nice addition

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fiveby92077d ago

Bethesda is biting the hand that feeds them. I'm surprised Bethesda is being so vocal. This tactic may well backfire on them. Are they just being the handmaiden of MS? I may just forgo FO76 completely now. Who cares about some CCG they are trying to push. Nobody really plays that game. CCG will continue to be dominated by Hearthstone and MTG,

ForeverTheGoat2077d ago

Lol biting the hand that feed them?....Lol okay

bluefox7552077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

Yeah, I doubt they're going to give up 80 million potential customers to make some dumb statement that only fanboys care about.

Eonjay2077d ago

Its not them that is talking. It is Microsoft through proxy.

-Foxtrot2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

Yup

Bethesda blamed the CELL and now we have the PS4 the still feel like they give Xbox special treatment.

Bethesda make their mouths go on this so much that if they were THIS bothered then they'd have rallied up a movement last gen to support Sony in getting Microsoft to do cross play then. Why didn't they said anything when it was trying to be done last gen? If more people spoke out then maybe we wouldn't have had this issue now.

I feel like they are only making their mouths go to divert attention from the criticism of hardcore Fallout fans who loved the single player experience and are ticked off with Fallout 76.

naruga2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

literally Bethesda shoud have been a 2 nd party for Xbox (i wonder how MS never cared to buy them or have exclusives with them)....everything they make is first Xbox and after it everything else...................the thing is that everything they release is up-down shit in gold cover (excpet Doom 2016 i think) ...Sony should NOT get bothered with idiots of industry ---just cut them off from the fanbase and see who is in pain.....even if their precious IP (for me isthe most overrated SHT ever) Elder Scrolls 6 goes Xbox- exclusive/first on, PS doesnt lose anything , is not PS3-360 era anymore , games like MOnster Hunter form Japan Rip apart shits like Skyrim

Jinger2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

How have they treated PS4 less than Xbox One? I mean they were nice enough to make a Skyrim and DOOM port for PSVR. As well as supporting PS4 Pro upgrades for DOOM and Fallout 4.

Also, it's not like they were the only ones who had issues with the CELL...

Edit: Also, it's not Bethesda's fault that Sony had more strict rules with mods which caused problems for Fallout 4.

Mr_Writer852077d ago

"Why didn't they said anything when it was trying to be done last gen?"

They had very few (if any) multiplayer games.

Fallout 3 and NV didn't have multiplayer.

Oblivion and Skyrim didn't have multiplayer.

Did Dishonored or Rage?

Where as this gen they have TESO, Fallout 76, Doom and now this card game.

rainslacker2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

@Mr Writer

yeah, but they didn't make a fuss about cross play with Elder Scrolls online, which released well before MS decided to get on board.

The reason it likely didn't was because it was on Xbox as well, and unlike FFXIV where they kept it off Xbox because it would have been difficult to manage the separation of the user bases, they just kept every platform for itself.

So where were they for that game, which likely would have benefited much more for being cross play with PC than their Fallout games, even the MP focused one. Or was that Sony's fault too, despite releasing 2 years prior to Phil ever having the words cross play cross his lips.

I think Bethesda didn't make a fuss about it because at the time of TESO release, or pre-launch marketing, there was still some belief from the publishers who loved MS that MS would actually have an exceptional generation and stand toe to toe, or even outdo Sony.

So, when they come out now saying how Sony is all bad, and it'll be a problem for Sony, its kind of hard to take them seriously when they haven't been the paradigms of fighting for the feature until it became convenient for MS.

gangsta_red2077d ago

@Rainslacker

So basically you're saying we can't take Bethesda seriously because they didn't make a fuss about it a long time ago?

This can't be the argument you're making? When is an acceptable timeline to take a company or a person's stance serious then? Mr Writer is correct, they are just now getting into more multiplayer type games than they have in the past. So of course now they have an opinion on crossplay, not when this type of crossplay between consoles was only a gamer pipe dream.

"...became convenient for MS."

Yours and others only reasoning seems to be this deep conspiracy theory that MS and Bethesda are working hand in hand to make Sony look bad.

Where is the the actual facts that Bethesda is doing MS's bidding? This sure didn't come up when they put Skyrim on PSVR.

Are other third party devs also working for MS to try and undermine Sony? Why hasn't this been exposed by the larger media outlets? Or are they also being bought and paid for by MS? If MS and Bethesda were in such diabolical relations then why does Bethesda continue to support the PS brand?

It's amazing how fast people turn on a company when that company starts saying mean words about Sony.

rainslacker2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

I'm saying I can't take them seriously because they spent most of last gen not having much good to say about Sony. They act like this is a big deal now, yet didn't bat an eye over trying to get it when they made ESO. And most of all, i'd say I don't take them seriously, because in no stretch of the imagination do I see them forgoing releasing their games on Sony's platform because of this issue. The only reason they might do that is if MS wrote them a rather sizable check.

With the recent comment, they didn't exactly make their case why it would be dire for Sony to not acquiesce on this issue.

When is an appropriate time to take someone serious? I'd say its when they stop posturing, and actually stand behind their convictions they seem to hold important. Bethesda needs to fix its buggy games before they worry about bringing platforms together.

"Yours and others only reasoning seems to be this deep conspiracy theory that MS and Bethesda are working hand in hand to make Sony look bad. "

I'm not one to prescribe to massive conspiracy theories. I'm not saying MS bid them to make such a comment. But when 4 years ago Bethesda didn't bat an eye over splitting up the community over ESO....one of its biggest money makers....it seems rather convienant that now its dire for Sony because they won't allow it with other platforms. Obviously, the current climate surrounding the issue made them think this, which is even more reason to take them seriously, because they only seem to care now because its a hot topic issue, and not because they cared in the past.

chiefJohn1172077d ago

The sad part is ppl like Naruga is seeing it from a company standpoint and not a gamer standpoint. Head so far up Sony behind he's against gamer friendly practices if it means to defend Sony. SMH, Madden crossplay would be cool and appreciated

ShadowWolf7122076d ago

@chief

That's EA's bag, not Sony's.

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gangsta_red2077d ago

"They will do anything MS asked them to"

And what exactly has MS asked them to do? Was it to port their games to the PS brand? How about a Skyrim version for PSVR, did MS ask them to do that also?

Anti Sony? How? The cell processer was legit hard for some developers, especially ones that made third party games. It's always funny to read these type of comments.

BlackTar1872077d ago

Why is Fallout 4 so much more buggy on ps4? Have they even fixed all those issues yet? i won't touch on the crap that is Bethesda PS3 support.

gangsta_red2077d ago

@BlackTar187

Fallout 4 was buggy on Xbox also and even still is this because MS asked Bethesda to make their games buggy on PS4?

BlackTar1872077d ago

Don't think I said Ms made them do anything. I simply stated as fact that Beth takes little care of the Sony customers compared to others. I won't pretend ps3 had some issues that were linked to architecture and beth didn't care to learn the system enough to fix them but what we have here is a trend. So when beth threatens Sony I find it's hilarious.

Imalwaysright2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

BlackTar187

The same way that Sony didn't care about every single developer in this industry and how it would affect their games when they put on the market a console that not only drove up development costs but also increased development time? A console that was made hard to develop for on purpose? A console that Cerny himself said it had issues and he knew it in 2007 (seriously, that guy doesn't get the recognition he deserves).

Bethesda games buggy on Sony's consoles? LMAO games made with the creation engine are buggy in every platform. In fact if you go to nexus the unnoficial patch for fallout 4 is the in top 5 most dowloaded mods and for skyrim its the 6th.

I know that PS fanboys love to play the victim but this is taking things to another level. If there is a conspiracy between Bethesda and MS prove it with facts.

chiefJohn1172077d ago

Fanboy logic lol they will come up with any BS they pull out rear. 🐎

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bluefox7552077d ago

Yeah, I never understood that.

gamer78042077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

while you are right that Bethesda hasn't been too keen on Sony, I like to base my decisions on whether an argument is good or bad, not based on who it is coming from.

In this case the argument is good, cross play is good for developers and gamers. Blind loyalty is not going to help push the gaming market forward into the future.

kevnb2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

They just do whatever microsoft wants pr wise, this even includes bashing the pc platform which has always brought them more sales than xbox. Now you see them do the same with playstation, another platform that makes them more money than xbox.

TGG_overlord2077d ago

It's still fun as hell to hear their whine every year though.

trooper_2077d ago

Betheseda needs to take a backseat, and shut the trap.

I still can't believe this is over a card game.

frostypants2077d ago

This. Remember the godawful Skyrim port for PS3 that Bethesda made next to no viable effort to fix for literally years?

rainslacker2077d ago

They aren't opposed to taking Sony's money to promote RDR2 though are they?

ps3vita4life2077d ago

RDR2 is being developed and published by Rockstar not Bethesda. Get your facts straight lol!

rainslacker2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

You're right. I don't even know what I was thinking. Just one of those moments I guess.

Ausbo2077d ago

The thing is though, Sony will not want to miss out on future Bethesda games. Bethesda might be big enough to intimidate Sony into giving us the crossplay we deserve.

UNCHARTED2FANATIC2077d ago

YUP!! back when skyrim released THERE WERE NO PS3 REVIEW COPIES SENT OUT TO ANY REVIEWER. I'm sure anybody who didn't know can figure out why.

ChristopherJack2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

Wow, the tin foil hats sure are tight on this site.

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StormLegend2077d ago

No one cares about Bethesda games. So yeah go ahead and remove that garbage called elder scrolls. Who even plays that?

zackeroniii2077d ago

Not really I don't really care about bethesda either or eldurrr skrollz.

Shiken2077d ago

I care, so yes it is bull. .any care about Bethesda's games.

DOOM
Wolfenstein
Elder Scrolls
Fallout
Rage 2

Bethesda has more going on than people realize it seems. HOWEVER...with that said...do you honestly believe that they are going to cut out 50% of the gaming market?

No they are just blowing PR up our asses and backing MS like they always have. This is nothing new, and nothing will change from it.

kevnb2077d ago

@zackeroniii so since you dont care about bethesda games nobody does? Interesting logic.

ChrisW2077d ago

I don't care to play SmartPhone games... Therefore everyone else MUST not care as well!!!

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Garethvk2077d ago

How do you figure that? Last I checked they had some of the more popular franchises out there Also for games nobody cares about they had no issues packinf Quakecon or their E3 showcaae.

SierraGuy2077d ago

Took the words out of my mouth.

goldwyncq2077d ago

Sony fanboys truly are delusional.

trooper_2077d ago

Delusional for not caring about something that's not a huge deal?

King_Noctis2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

“No one cares about Bethesda games”.

Don’t make yourself look like an embarrassment. You know yourself full well why you made that kind of statement.

Goldby2077d ago

it should be no one cares about an elder scrolls card game

saint_seya2077d ago

So when some fake journalist say "everyone want cross play" you call em too? Because we know the ones that are behind the cross play agenda are even less than the ones who cares about Bathesda game. Did you call them in their bs too?

cabbitwithscissors2077d ago

Two words - "Horse Armor". Bethesda can go screw themselves.

Platformgamer2077d ago

i 95% agree with you, aside of the evil within the rest can go to hell, TES are all mediocre, fallout is not that good, doom is cool but i don't care so much, same goes for wolfestein

rainslacker2077d ago

I have nothing against their games, other than they are buggy a lot of times. I don't really care for the company too much, but I do generally like their attitudes when talking to the community. not always though. however, then they do stuff like this, and it makes me shake my head. I expect hyperbole and what not from random forum goers, but these kinds of statements which claim a dire situation which you know won't come to pass are just stupid and immature from an industry professional.

Old_Prodigy2077d ago

It's a good thing that they're going the multiplayer route (for them at least) because it sounds like a good time to go fishing for some good bethesda loot in the pirate bay going forward.

PETE19852077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

Bethesda are one of the few studios that have enough influence in the market to force change. I believe (in terms of average review score) they are one of the most successful single publishers.
They are a successful business, they are in the industry to make money and all decisions made will be to that end. We don’t know what is going on behind the scenes at the moment but Bethesda will not be ‘calling Sony out’ on a whim. This is a planned strategy that no one but Bethesda knows the details of.

rainslacker2076d ago

Epic has much more influence in the industry, and they've been vocal about cross play. They aren't as petty as Bethesda is here to make idle threats though.

Bethesda can calculate all they want, but if they have to resort to going to the media in a passive aggressive fashion, then they aren't going to get much done. The big wigs in the industry can just as easily call up those of other companies and achieve a lot more than what Bethesda did here. If Sony was still being stubborn afterwards, then maybe they could resort to such measures to try and put pressure on them, but ultimately, Sony still isn't going to change anything if they haven't already.

I'd rather know exactly why the two companies can't work together, or at least a vague reason, or if they've even talked about it yet. This finger pointing and rampant speculation in the press and community is getting really old IMO. Realistically, the only excuse we've gotten so far is from Sony, who's said its a moderation issue...in a rather lackluster PR statement that really didn't explain the situation very well

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bigmalky2077d ago

Microcucks. The two companies that started DLC.

TekoIie2077d ago

DLC began long before Microsoft entered the gaming market dont make things up.

bigmalky2077d ago

Mainstream DLC that wasn't free or a typical expansion pack... Oblivion horse armour. After that, it became a norm.

There was no DLC before MS entered the market, only disc based expansion packs that offered bang for buck.

chiefJohn1172077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

Dlc been around long before Ms entered gaming rrealm.any PC gamer will tell you this lol. Online gaming for consoles didn't take off till Ms entered the market as they were the ones to move it forward. DLC is gonna come with online gaming and you're acting like dlc is a negative thing. Some devs may milk and give half effort but the same can be said about the base game

If you gonna shoot shots at least make a good point

Lovable2077d ago

Yawn...Bethesda still relevant?

King_Noctis2077d ago

What? Because they want crossplay so now everyone pretend to hate them?

Jesus...no wonder why some people are toxic to the gaming community.

Lovable2077d ago

Nah I hate them the moment the released a broken FO3. Couldn't finish the game cause it kept freezing. Still bitter about it.

Old_Prodigy2077d ago

@Lovable They're still trying to fix it, they added 73 to the title, added multiplayer, and get this. They removed single player.

EDKICK2077d ago

@King_Noctis
You're exactly right.

@Lovable
I don't know what's sadder. Hating Bethesda because they said something bad about Sony or hating them cause of a game they released a decade ago lol good luck either way.

ChrisW2077d ago

@Lovable,

Have you ever heard of ZeniMax Media Inc.?

aconnellan2077d ago

What? I guess everybody now hates Doom, Wolfenstein, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Rage, and Dishonoured too? Bethesda has some great and recent games, to suggest they’re not relevant is ridiculous

Baza2077d ago

Bethesda better watch their mouth. Sony doesn’t need Bethesda. Bethesda needs Sony. Multiplayer games have survived this long without Sony participating in cross play so why are they crying??

ChrisW2072d ago

Bethesda could go single platform and still do fine. They are only crying about Sony because the Bethesda CEOs would love to be able to afford more golf trips to exotic locations.

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greywolf392077d ago

They have even becomming anti consumer. F em I say, just dont come crying for game to releaase on some platform. I wonder how many games they sale on PS then Xbox and PC. I personally would say that PS4 in this case sells more game copies that Xbox and PC combined. They are developers like everybody else, they live from SONY, Microsoft and Nintendo, I dont understand why would you say such things. If I am Shawn or Shu I would say : Ok, then dont release your game and quit, but dont come in a year begging me to do something for you

kayoss2077d ago

PS4 multi plat games sells almost 3:1 against xbox. So if Bethesda want to play tough guy, they will learn very fast the hard way that the biggest market holder is nothing to trifle with.

EDKICK2077d ago

Lol Bethesda has been becoming anti-consumer now lol funny how people are saying that after they say something bad about Sony lol weak defense guys...

greywolf392077d ago

Uhmmm reseslling games affair, just maybe... you know

EDKICK2077d ago (Edited 2077d ago )

@greywolf39
If you really knew anything about that situation beyond the clickbait and the headlines you'll know the only issue Bethesda had is him referring to the game as new which while still in the package wasn't new. He could have done anything to the game/case and resealed it and since he was selling it as new it would have looked bad on Bethesda. People blew that out of proportion for headlines imo.

r2oB2077d ago

@edkick

And yet Bethesda has no issues with GameStop unsealing copies and selling them as new. I have personally purchased “new” unsealed games from GameStop.

And no, had the seller tampered with the game it would not have made Bethesda look bad. People would be pissed at the seller or the marketplace (I.e. Amazon if they didn’t help the buyer).

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere12h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN10h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos7h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN31m ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo2h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

PassNextquestion12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger10h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto11h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos11h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long8h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel10h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator10h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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I’m Glad Atlus & SE Changed Dates To Avoid Competing With Shadow Of The Erdtree

Saad from eXputer: "I'm glad I don't have to choose between Square Enix, Atlus, and FromSoftware due to bad release windows and Shadow of the Erdtree."

H91d 6h ago

More intelligent than guerilla games

raWfodog12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Atlus is releasing their game one week before Erdtree, SE is releasing theirs one week after.

HZD released four days before Zelda, HFW released one week before Elden Ring.

It seems to me like they are still releasing their games too close to Erdtree.