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The Game Awards 2017: It's Getting Tough To Defend Microsoft

Microsoft fails to hype up its audience more often than not. The Game Awards were full of reveals, trailers, and awesome moments. These are announcements that keep fans happy. Yet, one noticeably absent company at The Game Awards was Microsoft.

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maybelovehate2316d ago

Nobody cares about the game awards. Would be a waste to have reveals during that embarrassment of a production.

neolego2316d ago

Nobody I think is a broad term. It has it's audience. I think the bigger issue is that the show was filled with Sony (mostly) and Nintendo content while Xbox was barely mentioned. Bottom line is that it's a stage with millions of gamers watching, Microsoft should have shown up in a bigger way.

JaguarEvolved2316d ago

just saying its getting difficult to defend microsoft already proves youre a fanat-x. its quite easy to logically look at the situation going on in the gaming community if youre a core gamer that keeps up with gaming news and such. the xbox one is just a waste of time because most people have a computer and all xbox games can be played on a pc with better performance. i know most dont want to upgrade computer because they havent the money or just cant be bothered which i guess is ok and people are free to spend there money whoever they choose but xbox one is just a waste in my opinion as a gamer with a proper pc

Blastoise2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

@jaguar

To be fair Xbox fanboy or not, he's calling them out on their failures.
You can like something and still critique it, that's something a lot of people seem to forget when it comes to gaming.

Perhaps the title could be better though. Something like "Microsofts lack of presence at the game awards was disappointing"? I dunno.

LateNightThirst2316d ago

@Jag

Most gaming PCs on Steam aren't even on par with the One X and now everyone's PC is? Helps to take corporate sack out of your mouth to try and make sense.

Rhythmattic2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

LateNightThirst
Most Xbox owners aren't even on par with the X POWA and now everyone's has a X?
Helps to take corporate Box sack out of your mouth and try not to swallow.
Perspective, Look it up.

UltraNova2315d ago

@Rhythmattic

Damn that was brutal!! Well said.

Now everyone has an X...irony maxed out.

G20WLY2315d ago

It's refreshing to see an Xbox focused website actually addressing Xbone's shortcomings instead of spinning.

Just giving credit where it's due. The more that do this, the greater the chance they can turn this dire situation around. That means fans too need to speak up and quit defending a situation that ruins their hobby on their preferred platform.

sprinterboy2315d ago

That's because Microsoft released shite for most of 2017 exclusive wise, Cup head was well deserved

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yumi762316d ago

And if they don't show anything new and exciting at E3 will you say no one cares about E3 too?

trooper_2316d ago

Yea...that's a crap excuse.

Microsoft would have been notuced better if they had a big presence with a new game no one has heard of.

NoPeace_Walker2316d ago

Agreed with maybelovehate. 👍🏼

Nyxus2316d ago

It had 11 million viewers though.

Redlife2g2316d ago

Lol stop kidding yourself. That was a big deal.

Bigpappy2316d ago

I fits the narrative. Now everyone loves the game awards. Same broken record, over and over and over: Xbox has no games; no one wands it; hard to defend M$.

Stupid opinion article with someone pretending to be under emotional distress because M$ does have exclusive at an award show. Liar!

UCForce2316d ago

Well, if MS haven’t announce Play Anywhere in first play, that would keep people mouth shut about it. But now, there is no true Xbox One Exclusive and most of them are now on PC and they haven’t reveal their hardware sales units yet, I can bet Switch will outsell Xbox One even faster.

Godmars2902316d ago

That's exactly what people thought when Square showed off the second newest run of the TR series as Xbox exclusive...

DrumBeat2316d ago

It's true, nobody cares about silly awards, but we DO care about games. I love my Xbox, but I'm starting to get annoyed by what it is and what it isn't. Microsoft, you need to make exclusives. Now. Even though the annuals and third party dominate, people look for special games, which Microsoft has none of.

Honestly, this is bad, and Microsoft needs to catch up. Let's see some gems, MS.

QUIMICOMORTAL2316d ago

Yup! Understandable, when you have no horse on the race you need to... Not care about the race!

gamer78042315d ago

its one of the biggest events for the community to watch now other than the big trade shows. Microsoft should have been there to support it.

deafdani2315d ago

Millions of people watch the Game Awards, and the main reason they watch it is game reveals.

subtenko2315d ago

The game awards is bigger than xbox's E3 conference dude

rainslacker2315d ago

"nobody" cares about the game awards, but I'm sure that people care about reveals. MS hasn't had the many new game reveals for a couple years now.

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sammarshall1022316d ago

2017 has been pretty bad for Microsoft, 2018 is already looking way better

Sony's 2018 is jam packed with great games

yumi762316d ago

How is 2018 looking better for Microsoft? They had three games lined up one of them Crackdown got delayed until 2018. In 2018 they have three games including Crackdown.

sammarshall1022316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

Well let's see this year Microsoft released Halo Wars 2, Forza 7, and Cuphead, Pubg is probably timed exclusive

Next year Microsoft is releasing Forza Horizon 4, Crackdown 3, State of Decay 2, Ori and the Blind Forest 2, and Sea of Thieves

I think it's fair to say that their 2018 lineup looks better than their 2017 lineup

Liqu1d2316d ago

Microsoft released HW2 and Forza. Cuphead and Pubg are multiplatform games, they aren't exclusive to Microsofts ecosystem.

sammarshall1022316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

@Liquid he asked me how is Microsoft's 2018 lineup better than their 2017 lineup :) those are Microsoft games that aren't on the PS4

Like Nier: Automata isn't on Xbox

I do 99% of my gaming on PS4 but I'm not going to act like Microsoft has nothing for next year. I will probably buy some of their games

yumi762316d ago

Forza Horizon hasn't even been announced yet, and State of Decay is certainly not guaranteed to release next year same with Ori.

sammarshall1022316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

@Yumi76 Forza is an annual series, a forza game releases every year. The mainline game releases followed by the Horizon series we know it's coming next year

Going by what Spencer said about being done announcing games too early you can bet on Ori 2 being released next year especially seeing how the 1st one was released in 2015

fathertime44642316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

@liquid
How are cuphead and pubg not exclusive to Microsoft ecosystem? Neither are on ps4 or switch! Don't say pc because that is part of their ecosystem.

morganfell2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

@Liqu1d,

I have HW2 on PC and the last time I checked Forza 7 is also on PC. Both multiplatform games. The titles MS does have coming are all multiplatform. HALO 6 when it arrives this year or the next? Multiplatform. Crackdown 3? Multiplatform.

Now MS supporters are moving to their fall back position where it isn't about the Xbox console anymore but instead concerns Microsoft the publisher.

Play anywhere, right? Translation? Play somewhere else.

And this:

"The Game Awards 2017: It's Getting Tough To Defend Microsoft"

Tell that to gamingbolt.com because they are still trying to ice skate uphill.

Godmars2902316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

@sammarshall102:
Yeah...

If you exclude that much of the 2018 lineup was suppose to come out in 2017. If not earlier.

And did I miss a S/ in your first comment?

fathertime44642316d ago

@mprganfall
They're multiplatform, but still only on Microsoft platforms. When will y'all learn that they're Microsoft games on Microsoft platforms.
Same games come out on ps3 as on vita and ps4 and y'all double standard having a$$'s still call that console exclusives when in reality they're really multiplatform.

I think what's really going on here is that people are just upset that Microsoft has stock in the 2 most powerful platforms xox one x and pc. Microsoft doesn't have a 5" screen handheld, they have a 18" 4k touchscreen in laptop with better battery life, control options, and graphics.
Now I know I'm going to get all the disagrees in the world, but honestly I'm sick of these fan boy comments. Pc is better, Microsoft has no exclusives, Sony is the best. Technically Microsoft's pc line has the best graphics and exclusives, Sony has some great exclusives, Nintendo has some great exclusives, and Microsoft's Xbox has some great exclusives. Yes you can get Microsoft games on both pc and Xbox, however Sony platforms share games and same goes for Nintendo. What Microsoft can't do it? Why because a bunch arm chair businessmen and arm chair developers say so. Grow up, you'd be further in life if you didn't stick to one think. What a company should go broke to appease a bunch of egos? I don't think so

Automatic792316d ago

Stop spreading lies @yumi76

Xbox has the following coming in 2018

Sea of Thieves
Black Desert Online
The Artful Escape
The Last Night
Deep Rock Galactic
Ashen
Robotron X
State of Decay 2
Crackdown 3
Full Metal Furies
Darwin
Task Force
Ori and The Blind Forest 2 Will of the Wisp
Day Z

LandoCalrissiano2316d ago

Many games are getting delayed in 2018. Ubisoft is delaying 3 of them.

Gazondaily2316d ago

Ok apparently PubG and Cuphead are available on PS the way some people are posting. But Nier and nioH are exclusives yeah! 😂

Goldby2315d ago

"fathertime446415h ago(Edited 15h ago)
@liquid
How are cuphead and pubg not exclusive to Microsoft ecosystem? Neither are on ps4 or switch! Don't say pc because that is part of their ecosystem."

Steam isn't a Microsoft Platform, but Windows 10 is.

when people state that a game available on PC and isn't exclusive to MS, they are talking about Steam, GoG and other non Windows storefronts.

morganfell2315d ago

No fathertime, the PC isn't necessarily a Microsoft platform. Redmond does not own and control it. You are confusing the hardware with a piece of software that runs on the hardware.

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_-EDMIX-_2316d ago

I don't know if I agree with that I would say next year looks just as boring as this year.

This is easily one of the worst generations for Microsoft I have no clue exactly what's going on at their company but it's very clear they did not properly prepare for this generation because we cannot be going on several years waiting for something to be announced...

Just to put this into perspective Horizon zero Dawn was being developed in 2011.

The Order 1886 started development in 2010.

So can someone please explain to me exactly what Microsoft was doing last generation to actually really prepare for this generation?

Their reaction very much sounds like they got caught off guard and they probably were banking on selling their DRM services and never believed they would have to get rid of it as that sounds like that was the revenue stream they were hoping for. So the way I'm seeing it is that they probably did not invest in a bunch of new intellectual properties because they probably believe they weren't going to need them.

So at the end of the day if you really want to know the truth about Microsoft it's right in your face they very much didn't do Jack the years leading up to this generation.

Yet Sony and Nintendo clearly already prepared deep for the generation ahead.

Horizon zero Dawn was not simply a gut reaction, Xenoblade 2 was not simply a random creation it is very clear both of these Publishers prepared for a long time for the start of their Generations.

So what exactly was Microsoft really preparing to do?

So the way I see it for this company really deserves to be in last place this generation that would be like us rewarding Activision for only making Call of Duty for the entire generation but for god sakes even they made destiny.

sammarshall1022316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

They were doing good with a steady flow of games up until this year, the delays hit them hard

We already know Forza Horizon gets way more love than Forza Motorsport so that's already an improvement for 2018 when Forza Horizon 4 releases

A lot of people consider Forza Horizon 3 the best racing game

Then there's Cuphead which is one of the better games

Crackdown 3, State of Decay 2, Sea of Thieves, and Ori 2 > Halo Wars 2 unless you really love strategy games lol

I really don't see how you can say 2018 looks the same as 2017 or worse

_-EDMIX-_2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

@samm-but the end of the day the games that you're mentioning are for the most part the same series we saw from previous generations so saying something like Forza Halo gears Crackdown or anything like that is not really going to change how people are viewing this publisher this generation I'd argue that's exactly the problem with what's been happening with them.

I mean trust me I'm sure we're going to get Forza Halo 6 Crackdown what have you next year but like I said that's sort of the problem is that that is all we're actually getting from this publisher in terms of big AAA releases.

So yes 2018 is very much looking like exactly what their previous years looked like.

Here is a list of the same intellectual properties you just saw several years ago and last generation and even the generation before that.

So my issues are not with their delays because it happens in gaming my issue is not even the number of games being released, my issue is that we're literally seeing some of the exact same intellectual properties we just saw the previous generation from this company.

When Microsoft came out with the 360 they came out guns blazing and you saw so much effort put into their first party from the return of Perfect Dark to new intellectual properties like Gears of War II even Microsoft making a deal with Mass Effect series..

Slowly you begin to see that unravel as I believe they were just too loose with those deals. It seems like there was more money spent to create the illusion of exclusivity then to actually really invest in their first party.

So you saw money being spent on stuff like Dead Rising Lost Planet Oblivion Splinter Cell just to name a few, I actually believe the money they should have really used was too by BioWare and actually really own the Mass Effect intellectual property instead we saw Microsoft spend money on a game they did not own on a team they did not own only to have Electronic Arts come in and scoop them up no problem.

So basically Microsoft spent tons of money to Market and develop a game so Electronic Arts could buy them.

I'm sorry but that's one of those extremely stupid move that results in a company's scrambling to fill in a lineup. Their decision to knowingly fund a game they did not own on top of a team that they did not own even full well knowing that it was supposed to be a Trilogy is one of the reasons why I questioned Microsoft's real intentions because if they're in it for the long haul there should have been no reason that they didn't purchase BioWare.

It just sounded like they wanted to be cheap greedy and have their cake and eat it too.

They played with fire and got burned in since then it has just been an entire decade of this company either losing teams paying for timed exclusivity in struggling to maintain even a subpar lineup.

I'm sorry buddy but the money that used to fund and published Tomb Raider should have just went to creating a new intellectual property because you could get people to buy your system by tricking them a couple of times but at the end of the day that's not really going to help you in the long run.

I mean put it this way how many people do you really believe are buying an Xbox because they believe Bioshock is going to be exclusive to it?

I mean how many Xboxes are being sold because of Elder Scrolls?

So this behavior is not giving me much trust that this company can really do much and it sounds like we might have to wait till next Generation to actually really see them develop something brand new and interesting.

houyi1112316d ago

At this point, at least to me, it doesn't matter if Microsoft 2018's lineup is a little better than 2017's. I actually agree with you that 2018 they have more console exclusive games in numbers (if they all get released), but the list is still piss poor and really doesn't improve much. Like, what really changes if they indeed release crackdown in 2017, 2017 would still be bad for them. I would say 2018 is even worse for MS since the exclusive games gap is only going to get bigger compared to Sony and Nintendo.

ninsigma2315d ago

I agree that next year looks better for their software output but there are still very few games we know about. Of course there's e3 but that's half way through next year before they announce anymore. So I think they'd need to release the games we know about thus far in the first half of the year and then their 2nd half games can be announced at e3 and this will allow them to have a steady stream of games throughout the year which would be great (assuming they actually have games to announce for 2nd half besides FH4 of course). Only other thing for me is the games we know about still just aren't that interesting. Ori will be incredible and I'm majorly excited for that as the first is one of the best games this gen imo. The others however just look rubbish to me and I don't see that much hype surrounding them. Even hype for crackdown has died down.

Hopefully they manage to pull it out of the bag. A competitive Microsoft is good for everyone. Start of this gen they were doing really well on the games front so fingers crossed that happens again.

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chrisx2316d ago

Lol the writer needs to come here on n4g and meet da x defenders. We all know them

Zero_Suit_Samus2316d ago (Edited 2316d ago )

“Lol the writer needs to come here on n4g and meet da x defenders. We all know them”

Not many left at this point. Their army is weak. The smart Xbox fans already moved to Playstation.

PlayStation just keeps thriving. Jack Tretton left and Andrew House will be departing soon as new talent are stepping up. You just can’t get rid of the 3 stooges running Xbox. Phil, Major Nelson, and, Greenberg. That’s one problem.

Xbox has gotten much worse since launch. All you’ve got is a new console. There’s less games than ever.

AmUnRa2315d ago

No thats not true, whe have more games than ever, i mean look at all the xbox360 games i can play on my XboxOne (X).... o wait😉

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"Invincible" AAA Game Crowdfunding Campaign Launched by Skybound

Skybound Entertainment has launched the crowdfunding campaign for its AAA Invincible game with a minimum investment set at $100.

phoenixwing17h ago

These ppl are terrible. expecting gamers to pick up the dev costs with high as he'll initial investment. When they probably already have the funds considering they already hired a team of 30 and have the creator backing them.

Inverno13h ago

They seem to be crowdfunding the idea of a studio rather than an actual game. It's already at near half a million and there isn't even concept/any kind of proof of concept. People throwing so much money at something that'll most likely be too big for crowd funding alone and will have em partner up with a publisher.

PhillyDonJawn9h ago

I was just saying, they need to make this a game

-Foxtrot3h ago

Big IPs like this shouldn’t need crowdfunding

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Former Blizzard President Suggests Players Should Have Option to Tip Developers

Former Blizzard president Mike Ybarra recently suggested an interesting concept that has sparked a debate among gamers - the idea of being able to tip developers after completing a game.

LG_Fox_Brazil1d 18h ago

If I had a 100% way to be sure that this money would go to a fund or a reserve dedicated only to the guys who develop the games, be them designers, artists, programmers and so on, I could think about it.

But we all know that this 'tip' would only end up in a publisher's CEO pocket to buy a new yacht, so, no, I ain't tipping anyone anytime soon on this industry

neutralgamer199222h ago

Exactly these companies were raising money for good causes and gamers were donation and come to find out they are keeping a good chunk of be pie

PapaBop12h ago

Yeah tip your developer, 5% proceeds go to developer, 95% to the publisher or whoever. Isn't tipping for staff not making minimum wage? How about they just pay their developers properly and like you know, give them fair bonuses? Too much to ask from Blizzard these days, Kotick saw to that and is now laughing all the way to the bank.

MrDead22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

It's the t**ts at the top looking at ways to cut devs wages and get the players to tip them like waiting staff, and I'll guarantee a percentage is skimmed and kept by Activision Blizzard. This is 100% for shareholder and CEO playouts.

Popsicle21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I have to agree with this. On the surface tipping devs sounds like a great idea, but in the end it leads to pay cuts and subsidization of pay. Tips then become an expectation or the devs “can’t make a living.” Lastly, especially in the US, tip culture has gotten out of control, and it serves as an excuse not to properly pay employees. Sounds good but doesn’t end well.

1Victor18h ago

Uh so they’re trying triple dip or more we buy the game that they’re already withholding/cutting content for dlc we was told that season pass would help the developers thrive we felt for it.
Now on top of all that plus their sales bonus they want tips enough is enough whatever happens to you create/built a good game get a bonus for sales milestones you care about your game and community we reward you with more sales not for doing 3/4 of a game then save the other 1/4 for dlc and passes after

raWfodog16h ago

The 'tip' is me buying your game in the first place.

S2Killinit13h ago

Very well said. If it was possible to send the money to either the developer or some organization for the betterment of gaming, sure. But we all know that will not be the case.

Rynxie11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

No, it would go to those on the top. They will still fire developers, have a bunch of microtransactions, raise prices of games and so on.

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H91d 17h ago

So they eventually don't pay their workers and depend on our tips to pay them like the case with waiters!

Deeeeznuuuts21h ago

That kind of practice is only normal in the states, as far as I know anyway, what a backwards system

H920h ago

No it's as well in a every country that wants to amercanize

bloop18h ago

Ireland is literally the first stop across the pond and we don't have a tipping culture. The only establishments here that would expect a tip are the tourist haunts that Americans visit. Other than that, you might tip in a restaurant as a sign of gratitude for great service and waiting staff would be paid a full wage anyway.

Rebel_Scum12h ago

Tipping is not customary iin most countries dude. Get a passport lol.

Jin_Sakai1d 16h ago

Is this a joke? How about the big wigs giving up some of their pay for their hard working developers.

MrBaskerville22h ago

Maybe the CEO could earn his money based on tips.

mastershredder1d 16h ago

good god. The devs are not baristas dude. Total 1% ideals. Fing Chadosaurus.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1012d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref1d 23h ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde1d 21h ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19721d 20h ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville1d 19h ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21831d 12h ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos1d 11h ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai2d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref1d 23h ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan1d 22h ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0071d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19722d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19722d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref1d 23h ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde1d 21h ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19721d 21h ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19721d 21h ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier1d 18h ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto1d 19h ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21831d 11h ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman2d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts1d 20h ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts21h ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 5h ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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