The Industry Has Turned It's Back On EA And Star Wars Battlefront II

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rezzah2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

it is not over yet, this is just one game for one publisher and it is only temporary (microtransaction removal).

darthv722343d ago

Despite all the controversy, i will get the game (used). Im not going to let what they did detract me from playing.

Buying it new, however..... yeah they turned me off.

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fiveby92343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

I think at this point I will not buy the game no matter what EA does with their MT system in the game. They just have not earned any good will. They were going to make a ton of money even if they had zero MT's. But instead, they chose to exploit an already favorable situation for themselves. If this was not a Disney property they would have made no changes. I can only imagine what BIOWARE is being instructed to do with Anthem. Sorry EA, but I'm sitting this one out.

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rainslacker2343d ago

" The gaming community has no problem recognizing the hardwork and paying a buck or two extra for in-game purchases. The problem however arises when microtransactions turns into full fledged exploitation, as it did in Star Wars Battlefront II."

This is probably the best way to say what the difference is between MT, and what EA tried to implement.

It's not that MT themselves are bad, it's always in how they're implemented.

InTheZoneAC2343d ago

MT are bad regardless

MT are even worse when it doesn't offer only cosmetics, which should also be earned in game

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Goldenarmz2343d ago

MT are not bad, Maplestory and other F2P games on PCs have been using them for decades. Its just when you release a 60$ game and then half of it is ripped out and piece out to you as MT. Then that when it becomes bad.

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Tapewurm2343d ago

I bought the PS4 Pro Battlefront II bundle and I am happy with the game..... The single-player campaign, although short, was fun and I enjoyed it.... The Arcade Mode is a lot of fun too.... Split screen coop... awesome..... and in the multiplayer matches I have played thus far, I can honestly say I have held my own and I haven't used any "microtransactions" and I won't... I will buy DLC as it comes to support the game..... Truly don't care to get wrapped up in all this over-reacting to how they handled it.... As a TRUE Star Wars fan, I like the game.... Taking Han Solo through Tatooine blasting Stormtroopers..... what's not to love? (was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed playing the prequel content as well... who knew that battle droids could be fun to play? This guy knows now! 8D... Hopefully EA will address whatever has got the "snowflakes" upset... Just not seeing it from my point of view!)

Razmiran2343d ago

Oh, i see you are using the "It doesnt bother me so its not a problem" strategy

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InTheZoneAC2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

This snowflake ignores the issue so it's not a problem.....................

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TheVetOfGaming2343d ago

Snowflakes? This is nothing like that. What an idiotic statement.

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Chexs19902343d ago

You don't know what the term "snowflake" means, do you bro?
I hope to God you're trolling, otherwise this is beyond ignorant.
No one really hammered down the gameplay, it's the business strategy behind the game that's got a lot, and I repeat, A LOT of people upset.

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Mexxan2343d ago

Hoping to get your dlc free for defending the 'honour' of EA?
Sadly, this is the state of play today - when gamers no longer agree to being ripped off any more they're referred to as snowflakes.

Truly sad. Won't be long before you spend hundreds of dollars in this game and thank EA for stealing your money.

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CyberCam2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

Tapewurm is nothing but a “Skinner Box Lab Rat”, he’ll be feeding the “Operant Conditioning Chamber Lever” soon enough! Read 3rd post in link...
https://www.reddit.com/r/ga...

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strayanalog2345d ago

Great to see a lot of the industry unite, but like I've said before, don't buy the game or this means nothing. Keep the pressure on guys!

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DillyDilly2344d ago

People will buy it but the servers will get quickly abandoned

lio_convoy2344d ago

I didn't buy it and won't ever buy it. So you're wrong.

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KwietStorm_BLM2344d ago

@lio_convoy

It's good that you're not "people" then, yea?

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CorndogBurglar2343d ago

@ lio_convoy

Wow! I didn't know you represent all "people".

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_-EDMIX-_2343d ago

lol

Don't think EA really cares if you stop playing it, when they have your money, they are happy. Look at it like this...

DLC and Season Pass is free....

They turned off MTs.

Soooooo don't know how much money they'd be looking to really make after launch.

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_-EDMIX-_2343d ago

@Lio- ok...no wrong or right.

Anyone is free to buy any game they feel like it. You don't like it, don't buy it, but no need to try to judge other users on simply buying games to play. That is what gamers do.

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TheVetOfGaming2344d ago

Had no intention of buying it after all the crap they shoved into it. Taking it away makes no difference to me.

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Str8Chaos742344d ago

I bought it when they shut off micro transactions then returned it once they said the were bringing them back and allowing an accelerated experience for people who bought the crystals. Once I make sure my refund goes through I will be uninstalling origin.

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HollowKnight2343d ago

I'm actually tempted to buy It on Xbox just to try It out. Is It that bad?

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_-EDMIX-_2343d ago

lol...um.

ok.

This is pure click bait. Many unite over many things that happen in gaming....did they not with Battlefront 1? Yet....it moved 15 million units and EA made ANOTHER Battlefront game.

Sunny_D2343d ago

Battlefront didn’t have no where the same problem as Battlefront. It was shallow and barebones for a game. MANY also wanted the original Star Wars Battlefront style of game instead of this crap.

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LiamKreptic2343d ago

Was gonna buy it...then I played the beta in October...it was boring and the loot boxes make it worse.

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lelo2play2345d ago

All this fuss... and yet Star Wars Battlefront II is at the top of Amazon bestsellers.

There is no such thing as bad publicity.

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KwietStorm_BLM2344d ago

People didn't buy the game because of bad publicity. They bought it because it's Star Wars. The majority of people don't even know of this whole controversy, and might not have even heard the term loot boxes.

Snookies122344d ago (Edited 2344d ago )

Exactly, it's the people who don't go on gaming news sites that are buying it. I might pick it up down the road when it's under 10 bucks (used of course, to avoid supporting EA and Dice for this disaster.) Just for single-player campaign, and that's it lol.

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nix2343d ago

Until mainstream media picks it up no ordinary ppl will know. Some were proud that it got downvoted in reddit... Like 99% of ppl don't even know what reddit is.

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_-EDMIX-_2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

"They bought it because it's Star Wars. "

Nope, they also bought it because its buy a trusted solid team.

The last several Star Wars gamers were not all moving 15 million units......sorry but no, Star Wars Battlefront is not simply selling based on the Star Wars name ALONE. Clearly the team DICE and EA also have a history of trust with consumers for a solid product. People generally are not going to be spending money on something they think is not going to be fun.

If its selling JUST because Star Wars, why not Force Unleashed? That move 15 million too? Why not Lego Star Wars? Why not KOTOR? Heck...why not the ORIGINAL Battlefront? No. Games are not simply selling for name alone, if that was the case Transformers would be smoking Call Of Duty in sales lol

Majority likely didn't hear of loot boxes, but I gather the majority don't care.

Easy question, does it stop me from playing it?

Want to know how much people want Battlefront 2? ummmm Snookies- " I might pick it up down the road when it's under 10 bucks (used of course, to avoid supporting EA and Dice for this disaster.)" Sooo the fact that money is an option and they are still going to get the game, further shows even its own damn critics want to play it.

What does that REALLY tell you about the quality of this game, that EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST the publisher want to play it lol

How many games can you REALLY say, you are against all these practices, but sure...you still going to buy down the line?....that is very powerful and very much illustrates the popularity and trust of this developer

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enviable272343d ago

@Snook, Exactly and that is the majority, which this whole complaining and whining was for nothing but wasted keystrokes.

EatCrow2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

Not true. The majority buy the games that are most public.... Hardcore gamers are the ones that buy less popular mainstream titles, which star wars is clearly not. Which means that the devs making smaller titles, not as widely known as star wars, will make sure to be careful.

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rainslacker2343d ago

If there are a enough hardcore gamers who aren't spending their money on it, then it makes an impact. It doesn't mean the game won't be successful if they don't buy it, but it can still add up to a significant amount of money.

For a company looking to maximize profits, that's kind of going in the opposite direction.

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_-EDMIX-_2343d ago

Not really.

What gamers have been debating is just. If it wasn't, you wouldn't see EA reacting by altering the game several times in response. So I can't say that it was "for nothing".

MT was removed from the game

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Tru_Blu2343d ago

I saw them talking about how much of a disaster this is on cnbc, I think there is some bad publicity.

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Cobra9512343d ago

Bad publicity does hurt when consumer trust is involved. EA will feel the pinch even if they end up profiting from this game. They'll profit less, and the mistrust will follow them into other projects. Even their peers in the industry are taking a step back from them.

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_-EDMIX-_2343d ago

lol

MOST legit don't care about this, I was reading this on this site and many other sites......still bought the game. Had no plans to buy any MT, so them turning it off didn't change me getting it or not. I like that they listened and its off, but I like actually PLAYING THE GAME in the first place.

Folks seriously need to understand this, down voting this person isn't going to STOP MILLIONS FROM PLAYING A GAME. You folks can get as mad as you want, cry as much as you want, down vote as much as you want, but this issue is not big enough to stop people from buying a game for fun. Until it becomes that, you won't see much change.

They had MT's = people mad
They got rid of MT= people mad

Sooooo look at it from a gamers perspective, if you are mad at EA with or without MT, you've just made your own point worthless to any gamer willing to listen. you've just confirmed, you hate EA regardless, soooooo do you really think many gamers will REALLY take this seriously when folks are giving death threats and rage with or without MT?

To the outside gamer, it simply seems like a bunch of crying.

Sooooo you actually in reality hurt your own movement when you go what I call "hard edge" ie RELENTLESS against a publisher or company. You show your point is you hate EA and not really MT, thus...most consumers don't understand the hate, most don't care. You've made the point a personal and emotional point vs one based on real logic.

Debate the practice, fine, debate the publisher, ok....but let it go when the publisher or company actually changes, to keep this up, might simply look like the group of gamers that feel this way, do based on something that has NOTHING to do with logic. I literally read online "haters are made when DLC is free, they are mad at MT, now they are mad that the MT is gone" that is what you are really seeing from gamers.

Did you guys think the hate for Battlefront 1 really hurt the game's sales? What? All 15 million of it?

When you hate regardless of situation, you make your point void really, really fast. You folks against MT or just when EA does it?

Someone who wants to buy Battlefront 2, is not going to listen to a person that has a hit list of EA employees.

Cobra9512343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

Hating an anti-consumer, studio-gobbling-and-killing business is not irrational, Ed. EA earned their hate, every step of the way, and this is what it has come to. You're right. This incident by itself is not the whole picture. The total damage they've done is much worse.

By buying the game, you're supporting EA. You're giving them a pass on their behavior. You're right--most people are not informed, and don't know better. You are, and you do.

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Seafort2343d ago

This will impact all their other games as well especially Anthem which is a multiplayer game too.

I am wary now that Anthem will suffer the same fate so I shall be watching EA every move they make with Anthem now and until launch.

If there is any sniff of MTs I won't be buying the game. It's as simple as that.

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bigmalky2343d ago

You've spent more time here trying to tell everyone how good the game is, instead of playing it Ed.

That's a bit telling. Troll or shill, which is it to be?

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_-EDMIX-_2343d ago

I'm having fun playing it right now it's a legitimately good game..

Neither of you need to like it or play it but you need to understand that Gamers will play games for fun and that trying to destroy a studio based on personal feelings is not really going to convince other Gamers to not purchase something they feel is fun.

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The 10th Rider2342d ago

You're delusional if you don't think it hurt the game's sales. Sure you could argue that it will still be profitable, sell loads, and that EA will be happy with the sales, but it's very clear that the game would have sold more without the controversy. All the Facebook ads of the game are spammed with comments about how awful the MT system is. That one comment is infamous on Reddit to the point that pretty much every single active user must have heard about it by now. That's tens of millions of people right there. Even it it deters just 1% of the people that heard about it from buying the game it could still knock down sales by a million. On top of that it's attracted the attention of Disney who is surely upset with EA over the bad press for a Star Wars game.

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@10th- Thats nice.

Many who read about the MT were never going to buy the game in the first place. You folks made a fuse over Battlefront 1 and it went on to break several records....

Soooooo suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrre

The 10th Rider2342d ago

@EDMIX,

Huh, will you look at this, a massive drop compared to expectations and the first game in the Battlefront reboot. You're just as wrong about this as you were about Breath of the Wild's sales, lol.

http://n4g.com/news/2124475...

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SegaGamer2344d ago

They deserve it, EA has been turning it's back on us gamers for years now. It's been all about the money rather than great games with EA for a long time now.

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ApocalypseShadow2344d ago (Edited 2344d ago )

I turned my back on EA years ago. The more they became ruthless and money hungry, the less and less I bought their products until I just ended up boycotting them for over a decade.

I've commented about them in the threads but there are those like moldy that still support them because of EA Access. Which is still EA being greedy. They are the only ones with that service. And in my opinion, it's because EA and Microsoft couldn't implement the used game policy at console launch.

If you remember, EA used to charge $10 to play online for used games because some developers figured they deserved a cut from used sales. If I sell my car or DVDs or whatever, companies like Paramount or Honda don't get money from used sales. Why should game companies?

Anyway, as soon as EA dropped the online pass, Microsoft announced the policy with EA right there salivating on the idea of either killing used sales. Or profiting on used sales as they have a large line up of used sports games, etc every year.
https://news.xbox.com/2013/...

**Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers.**

EA would have been right there setting up shop to ask retailers for money guaranteed. When online pass wouldn't work, then Microsoft policy didn't work, they came up with EA Access. But some gamers can't see right through them jumping from one scheme to the next about used sales. Digital is the same because you can't trade your games in or lend it to a friend.

https://www.cnet.com/news/e...

I really hope gamers are truly seeing EA for what they are. It can only benefit them in the short term and long term. Where gamers used to get a complete game with all items unlockable through play than today's piece meal selling of items and loot boxes to get gamers addicted on random gambling and forced slowed progression unless you pay money to speed it up. EA are scum.

letsa_go2344d ago

Microsoft, along with EA and Activision have been the pioneers in trying to nickel and dime us to death with addons, dlc, and now microtransactions. I first noticed Microsoft's push for microtransactions in Doritos Crash Course 2 back in 2013. I knew something was up and it was a hint of things to come.

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Krysis2344d ago

Way to go way off topic by slamming a n4g user and Microsoft in a thread about EA and Battlefront 2 and it's anti consumer practices. An issue the gaming community set aside their differences for and rallied together to be heard, and for once it seems we made a difference and you go and try to turn it into a fanboy war again. Fu**ing congratulations.

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GNCFLYER2344d ago

Damn. I first started boycotting them in the first PS3 year. I had to see Madden on a new system. After that I realize it's only roster updates.

That's something we could download for 2 or 3 years than push a new one.

I quit Madden about 11 years ago and I'm a football junkie

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ApocalypseShadow2343d ago

Good for you flyer. After things like NFL 2K, I was done with EA and roster updates like you said.

Some look at EA as just being a business. And they do have a right to do business. But the way they do it is greedy and scummy. But some gamers look the other way when EA pretty much implemented another way to get your money. And with loot boxes and micro transactions it's just more of the worst company in America doing their worst to gamers with a smile on their face.

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Jinger2343d ago

What's so bad about publishers and devs getting money for used games?

EA Access is one of the more consumer friendly things about EA. $30 a year and you get quite a large selection of games to play, large demos for upcoming games and if you want to buy it you get 10% off.

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AnubisG2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

@Jinger,

What's so bad about companies wanting money of used games? Guy, that game is your property once you buy it. Using your logic, whatever you sell, you should give royalties to the original maker right? What a dumb thing to even suggest.

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gangsta_red2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

@shadow

You seem to have forgetton to mention that Sony also implemented online passes for all thier first party games in an effort to also stop used games.

This was pretty much a joint effort with a lot of the big name devs and publishers when the whole *used games* issue was a hot topic last gen.

But I agree with Krysis, this is not the point and only reads like another comment to complain and drag MS into the mud.

bigmalky2343d ago

I have been trying to tell people this for years. It goes in one ear and out the other, especially the loyal fans of the companies that screw them over at every opportunity.

Seems like there's a generation or two (along with weak willed older gamers) that are just used to being conditioned for a future that has a poor outlook. It ruins it for everyone.

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PhoenixUp2344d ago

EA is still gonna EA with their other properties and the industry will still support them doing so

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DillyDilly2344d ago

EA will simply abandon this game & quickly announce the next one

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DeadSilence2344d ago

Yup 2019 battlefront 3 will be here and nobody will remember this one.

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_-EDMIX-_2343d ago

Not really.

EA many times sticks with online games for a good while. BF4 got support for YEARS after release, this year BF4 got like several updates too. Say what you want about the publisher, but they support many titles long term.

Look at Battlefront 1 ...

so I don't see them dropping support until Battlefront 3 comes out ending 2019. You don't need to like them, sure, but no need to lie. Battlefield 4, Hardline, Battlefield 1, Titanfall 2 etc all got updates and support for years after release.

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DillyDilly2343d ago

None of those games got hit hard like this one is currently doing & is at risks of empty servers right off the bat thats the difference here

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_-EDMIX-_2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

@TheRan-except even when the servers were lowered in terms of active people playing with Battlefront 1 it's still actually got content and updated...

I mean it's a nice try and I see you're desperately trying to attempt to make it sound as if some sort of backlash is going to make the company stop supporting the game but even the numbers lowering for Battlefront 1 after its release didn't suddenly Hult content or updates or support.

I mean you're saying empty servers right off of the bat this game is already on the top charts for Amazon lol consider it didn't even have a physical version released on Amazon until the actual day of release.

I know you're trying to make it sound as if this is some magical exception that's going to make the company stop supporting the game but you technically could have argued the same point about so many other games, couldn't you argue that Titanfall 2 slow sales would make the publisher stop funding any sort of support for the game? Yet the game is still being updated.

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Dante1012344d ago

Hope it dies completely it doesn't deserve any type of attention

PapaBop2344d ago (Edited 2344d ago )

Collective pats on the back all-round? It's obvious where the big publishers want to take the industry but after this week's controversy, nobody is going to be stupid enough to try and pull something like this. If this was just about any other game than Star Wars (and maybe COD) it'd have been a flop, kind of like Evolve but on a much larger scale.

Better still, we've arguably managed to finally generate some negative stigma towards loot crates amongst the more casual gamers. I bet the other publishers are absolutely livid with EA as they all will all now risk facing a PR backlash at the mere mention of loot crates or similar functions.

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PiNkFaIrYbOi2344d ago

Maybe this will make EA do better but doubt it. Already ruined many game franchises and devs.

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Father__Merrin2344d ago

Is there any reason that bf2 couldn't be made with standard game unlocks as you progress? Sure add in MT etc for rare customisation options but all unlocks should be made with acceptable grinding levels I read somewhere you would need to play for 1000h to unlock the last few heroes

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Jinger2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

Vader and Luke are the most expensive and take about 10 hours each to unlock. The rest of the heroes are cheaper so it shouldn't take too much time if you are an avid player. I'm also not including the credits you get from progression unlocks from playing the game and the 9k you get from beating the campaign.

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AnubisG2343d ago

Now I'm convinced you work for EA. Don't forget to tell everyone that in order to unlock everything in your beloved anti-consuner bs game takes over 4000 hours. Plus, now it takes 10 hours to unlock either Vader or Luke but than you can't spend credits on anything else what so ever. Meaning, you will have a shit time and those 10 hours will be a grind. And that is if you are a good player. If you aren't good, it could take much more. So to unlock Vader and Luke is 20 hours of grind and again, you can't spend your earned credits on any other upgrades. No one will be able to unlock Vader or Luke in 10 hours. Stop with your BS defending this evil company ok? No one is buying it.

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rainslacker2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

So, 20 hours to unlock 2 characters.

yeah, that seems fair I guess. I mean, most games give you tons of content to choose from when you play 20 hours. After 6 hours in DOA5 for instance, I had about 10 extra characters to choose from, among tons of new outfits to put on them.

Seems if you spend the first 10-20 hours to go straight for these two characters, you're going to be so bored by the end, that you won't even care anymore.

10 hours to get one unlock? That is the very definition of grind. WOW, has things that could take that long, or longer, through daily quests, and everyone in the community says grind to describe it. But at least in the process you get more than just the final reward, and likely, you'll be doing a lot of other stuff in the meantime.

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titans99992344d ago

all you developers better take note!! Let this be a firm warning not to do the same old stunt that EA just pulled...or else...

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guywazeldatatt2344d ago

EA deserves this. 100%%%%%%

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PlayableGamez-2344d ago (Edited 2344d ago )

This is way too beautiful for me.😍

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DeadSilence2344d ago

We had trackers for Battlefield and Battlefront 1 where we could see online population.

No words on battlefront 2?

Majin-vegeta2344d ago

Game is still fresh usually takes a few days for it to get up and running

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Prince_TFK2344d ago

Its only a matter of time before they bring it back. They gonna try to force and shoehorn this into their games any ways they can and make it a standard practice in every games just like DLC and season pass. They just wait for things to calm down and add it back slowly.

Fuck this company and I wish you burn in hell.

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Tankbusta402344d ago

Wasn't interested in the game but I am glad to see the outrage. EA will find another way to get their money... So the victory will be short lived.

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raggy-rocket2344d ago

Its*

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King_Lothric2344d ago

Casino Arts

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Jinger2343d ago

Why casino?

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AnubisG2343d ago

Because the BS microtransaction system you guys at EA put in the game is exacly like gambling. That is why you guys at EA are being investigated by Belgium. The sad part is that EA hires people like you to try and spread lies and downplay this BS on gaming forums. Because no one sane person in their right mind would defend this unless they are paid money.

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Jinger2343d ago

@Anubis

So now I'm being paid by EA? Haha

Loot boxes aren't gambling, get real here.

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AnubisG2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

Yes, now I'm 100% convinced that you work for EA. No sane person would support this anti-consuner BS EA put in SWBF2.

You constantly try to downplay this issue that gamers have with this in every SW article. So I'm convinced you work for EA.

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peppeaccardo2344d ago

... "turned its back" ... please fix the title and promote good english ... thank you !!

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rpgenius4202344d ago

I bought it and it's it's pretty good.

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Metalord2344d ago

They made their bed now they have to lie in it ..... EA scum

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kevinsheeks2343d ago

I don't know if there are paid shills or they love abuse but ive seen people actually upset at the people who are tired of being abused . . .it's so baffling to me like legit upset we got tired of being taken to the cleaners.

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Jinger2343d ago

I have never been taken to the cleaners. What's it like?

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AnubisG2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

No, it comes naturally to you. You like being ripped off, Jinger of EA.

Guys, Jinger works for EA so be careful of his BS.

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kevinsheeks2343d ago

You do seem to be shilling/trolling it up a bit buddy, maybe you aren't though which leads me to believe you just really love to get into online debates and I'm not about to go back and forth with you for too long I pretty much get your stance on the issue which is Pro-MT or Pro-Lootboxes/Gambling.

I'm always open to hearing different perspectives and when a bunch of other perspectives differ from mine I try to analyze my thoughts on the matter and see if maybe I'm the one who isn't thinking clearly, I don't typically rush into a situation or article and put "here come the whiners" as you've done if at the end of my road I can't come to an agreement with the other party I merely move on.

You seem to be invested in this particular topic maybe because it's the trending topic which allows you to engage with a variety of people who disagree with you. But what's the point of constant debating of one's opinion if no growth is reached if you refuse to hear others and trivialize their opinions with name calling why do you believe yourself to be worthy of any thoughtful response?

Any-who good day Jinger I'm sure i'll see you in an article regarding MT's or Loot boxes or any predatory practice that only harms consumers.

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Jinger2343d ago

@Anubis

You're silly.

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Hardiman2343d ago

I don't understand it either. This company of all companies has a history of bad practices from outright destroying franchises to buying studios and to just run them into the ground to all the BS that's involved in the latest Need for Speed game to Battlefront 2. I haven't given them a dime in years and will not and I'm glad all this is blowing up. I really didn't think this would happen but I'm so glad it did!

1060FX83002343d ago

Fuck this game.

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Jinger2343d ago

I wouldn't say the industry turned it's back. I'd say a fraction of the hardcore gamers or gaming enthusiasts turned their back.

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AnubisG2343d ago

Read the article you EA employee.

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Jinger2343d ago

Just stop haha

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sizeofyou2343d ago

A fairly large fraction of the hardcore. A fairly small fraction of the casuals maybe. But, if the game doesn't sell to expectation, it's enough for someone to realise that there's a problem - and it's time to review the policy.
You really think that this is all ok don't you - making the heroes of a series so hard to get so that people may be tempted into spending more money simply to play as them. It's a star wars game that should feature the main protagonists at least. What next - Spiderman released but only playable characters are Mary Jane and JJJJ unless you play for 100 hours or buy the content?
It is greed...and taints the whole industry...

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Jinger2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

If people stopped spreading false facts. It only takes 10 hours to unlock one of the top tier characters. That's not including all the credits you get from normal progression unlocks from just playing the game.

I already have vader and halfway to Luke. The two most expensive characters and I have only played maybe 12-15 hours.

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zuul90182343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

"ONLY take 10 hours to unlock ONE of the top tier characters."

That doesnt seem wrong to you?
Lets use the spiderman example again. So in the new amazing spiderman for PS4 youd be fine playing as MJ for 10 hours right?
Maybe in Halo 6 you only play as marines until 10 hours.
I just dont see how you think thats acceptable.... 10 hours is longer than some games campaigns. Its absurd to me you think that youre presenting a reasonable counter argument to his exaggerated 1000 hours.
Not many people that have real world responsibilities are gonna unlock all that crap. By the time they have theyre gonna be burned out of the game and end up never even playing as them.

Vader and halfway to Luke at 12-15 hours... come on sir...

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sizeofyou2343d ago

Here's your new Ferrari, sir.
Nice car you've bought. But the engine's rev limited to 2500rpm until you've done 10000 miles or you pay us another 20%...
Enjoy your £185000 car, sir.

sizeofyou2341d ago

@Jinger
Ah...so it's "only" taken you this time SINCE EA made the changes to reduce the time required...
...
...thas quite funny...

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Retroman2343d ago

Don't forget Need for Speed we turned our back on that Craptastic payback crap as well .

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AnubisG2343d ago

Yes, we did.

GameHead852343d ago

Good.

Felsager2343d ago

That's music to my ears.

Damthatsword2343d ago

keep up the pressure ppl!

Hardiman2343d ago

I did years ago and I'm so glad this happened. Maybe others will take notice.

Many-hat52343d ago

Yeah, lot's of pots and kettles and the colour black here, me thinks.

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quenomamen2343d ago

Glass houses throwing rocks, whole industry is full of bs.

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RadicalCannibal2343d ago

Hey EA, We are Sparta!

Many-hat52343d ago

No, I'm Spartacus!

glenn19792343d ago

I will not be buying this game and we should be more vigilant in the future with this kind of crap

jc122343d ago

EA better not pull this bullcrap with the next Battlefield. I don't care so much about microtransactions, but I'd rather not see Battlefield's name get dragged through the mud.

Cobra9512343d ago

"Everybody in the gaming industry is watching the #StarWarsBattlefrontII drama unfold."
— Adrian Chmielarz (@adrianchm) November 15, 2017

This is most important of all. It's the test case for other developers and publishers to see. If the backlash against EA sticks, they'll know what not to do. But if EA still ends up raking in unearned millions from in-game gambling mechanics, the industry will not change for the better. They'll just learn to be sneakier about milking the players, and not enrage everybody at once.

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T2X2343d ago

Oh please. I wish they'd stop acting as if this is the most weighty subject in the world. I was playing it yesterday for hours. I thought it was great. Just my opinion.

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Tapewurm2343d ago

Agree totally.... I am loving it.... haven't used one single microtransaction and I won't.... I think any true Star Wars fan will enjoy it.

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TheVetOfGaming2343d ago

Spamming your opinion is just idiotic.

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T2X2343d ago

I think they did a helluva job on the game. I get that people are against greed and everyone tends to view every corporation as evil, faceless and greedy. But, really it's not going to get in the way of my enjoyment of the products themselves. I think EA makes excellent games and they have for many years. So many idiots whine about EA, then whine about Activision and every damn game maker out there. If you took these companies away, people would cry that there are no good developers to make the games that they loved to bitch about. And everyone who gives an opinion like I'm doing right now, gets some baffoons who call you an undercover EA employee? LOL. Many gamers of today don't have any idea that these companies were there from the very beginning of video game consoles and PC gaming. I have been a customer for over 25 years. And back then, there were only a few good really quality devs. Now people are spoiled for options. Oh well, my "Back in my day" rant is done now! LOL!

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justsomeoffdude2343d ago

Well it's what happens when greed overtakes everything else. They deserve it!!!!

Sokol2343d ago

They only stopped the purchase, temporarily, and the grind for the rest of the gear and heroes still remains unbearable.

This isn't the way to generate revenue, this is the problem and prime example of uneducated folks with latte in their hands that don't understand the industry they work with.
Hopefully this is a lesson for the rest of the community and companies to pay attention. You are walking a very, very thin line between greed and profit.
Pathetic, none of my friends and colleagues will support this childish attempt to bleed gamers. This is coming form the Stars Wars fan for the last 18 years.

Redlife2g2343d ago

Just read an article on how Disney tore a strip out of ea for all of this nonsense and how it's ultimately hurting the star wars brand. Fuck you ea.

Mr_Writer852343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

Micro transactions are a bane, they could be used for good.

Despite being a less extreme version even the OW loot boxes go too far.

I'm an ideal world you'd have 4 tokens that cost £2.50. Each token allow you to buy 1/4 of any cosmetic items made. So you could either pick the skins/clothing/sprays you want or unlock them all for no more than £10.

I'd feel better knowing that I'm supporting a game, but not having an advantage over anyone else, and I haven't had to spend a fortune.

I guess you could put a short term (say 3 days tops) experience boost if you have a level system in your game if someone buys all the packs as a thank you.

But nothing else.

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Nuclearmoon2343d ago

EA will do their best to make this game flop and in a few months they will buy Dice at a reduced price.

MaxiPower902343d ago

Resist all urges and don’t buy it! Send a message

LastCenturyRob2343d ago

Game prices have been $59 (up to) for decades now. Some Sega Genesis games were released at $70....Time to increase the game prices to $69 to offset the high production costs developers have to face.

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HyperMouse2343d ago

Heres a quick google search of the profit CoD makes alone - Activision forecast adjusted earnings of 38 cents per share and revenue of $1.38 billion for the second quarter. Analysts on average were expecting a profit of 33 cents per share and sales of $1.33 billion, according to Thomson Reuters ......almost 1.5 billion a bit skinny is it, might need to eat Devin sandwiches for a while, its pure greed and anything in between is a lie.

LastCenturyRob2343d ago

Yeah but there is more than just Activation and EA out there. There are quite a few small developers that need larger teams to produce games that can compete... Most games do not sell at the volume of COD. Regardless, studios are going to want to see as large as possible profit on their returns, especially publicly owned companies. If they need/want more profit they will see if they can get away with micro transactions...so far no mater how much people complain they are making money on those transactions... Potentially raising the price of games to meet profit demands could eliminate any need for micro transactions for a while at least.

TheVetOfGaming2343d ago

No.

ionzymbo2343d ago

Really? 2 people's tweets and that's the gaming industry for you?

GamesMaster19822343d ago

I just don't understand why so many comment's on here are getting downvoted. Guess some little sheep on here must love getting bent over and robbed blind by greedy bastards like EA.

Nodoze2343d ago

Corrected the title: EA has turned their backs on the industry, Star Wars fans, and gamers in general. They are DESTROYING GAMING.

Knightofelemia2343d ago

I have a feeling Disney might pull the Star Wars license from EA after this train wreck launch of a game.

LastCenturyRob2343d ago

Would be nice but doubtful. Disney likes money as much as EA. With Christmas coming this game is still going to sell a ton...Also it depends on what kind of agreement/contract they have.

Knightofelemia2343d ago

Disney is super rich it's not hard to buy out the contract they made with EA.

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LastCenturyRob2342d ago

They certainly could...if there is a clause that allows them to do so or if EA would agree.

mastershredder2343d ago

Long, long overdue..and they are not the only ones that need their ballz busted.

ebounce882343d ago

In support of my fellow gamers and this disgusting casino version of star wars I did not buy the game. However I did have a free rental at redbox.. I even more so now agree it's totally pay 2 win. The best star cards make you have undeniably better statistics and gimmicks to dominant your opponents. It's gotta go. Can't be the new trend or gaming will be dead IMO

J-DARKnes2343d ago

I stopped by anything published by EA new a long time ago and have skipped a lot their games altogether based on their practices.

icerob2343d ago

finished the campaign.. loved it.
played arcade.. really sucked.
I wish they had a campaign mode that was cooperative..
I hate playing against other people online in every game.. I am a casual gamer and just dont have the time or will to skill up.

Tzuno2343d ago

See, you can do it gamers, vote with your wallet. Big up.

zb1ftw7772343d ago

Boycott it.

Don't give in to the dark side.

michellelynn09762343d ago

Shame on all of you! How dare you turn your backs on EA, who has ripped us off er given us so many great games! For shame on gamers who are tired of companies charging them when they should not. We are all scum I tells ya!
(Sarcasm in case you didn't know).

Tedakin2343d ago

Even this story doesn't know the difference between Its and It's... Just like the writers of the game!

Psytrix2343d ago

Buying this game is supporting the shit they did. If you have any self respect and value decent developers, you’ll leave this turd on the shelf.

Silly gameAr2343d ago (Edited 2343d ago )

Well, I know the MT is a pretty big subject for BFII right now, but I'm more interested in knowing if the game is still boring as f***, or is II is more fun than I?

XxINFERNUSxX2343d ago

I'll just be waiting for CPY to crack it :D I haven't given EA a dime since Battlefield Bad Company 2 for the PC 7 yrs ago. And I'm not about to start now or in the future. CPY FTW