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No Games? Xbox One is on track to have more Exclusives than the 360.

As E3 comes and goes for yet another year, Xbox and Phil Spencer have certainly been centre stage for many. Since it was revealed in the 2016 briefing that we would be expecting a new console (codenamed Scorpio), which has recently been showcased as the Xbox One X, fans have been even more demanding this year for Xbox to deliver .

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Obscure_Observer2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

Awesome! Phil Spencer is on the right track. Good things ahead for Xbox gamers. :)

Brave_Losers_Unite2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

"In fact there are already 147 exclusive games on the Xbox One, on current course of another 4 years for this gen that means we could see a total of 294. "

LMAOOOOO Lets just neglect the PC platform so that we can make Xbox seem like it actually has any exclusives

freshslicepizza2494d ago

PS4 gamers mostly ignore the PC, so what's your point? Obviously Microsoft is going to utlilize Windows to their advantage just like Sony is with Vita. If you have a Windows 10 PC that's capable you should be happpy, not complaining. So enough of the posturing acting like this is bad for Xbox.

However I don't think they are doing enough internally. They still have to invest more intoer own studios.

Brave_Losers_Unite2494d ago

Xbox gamers mostly ignore the fact that Xbox has no exclusives. And come up with excuses like

"PS4 gamers mostly ignore the PC, so what's your point?"

Whenever I read articles stating Xbox exclusives, it is such a facepalm to the inaccuracy of the article. PC is the biggest platform to game on and the Xbox crowd puts on the blindfolds whenever PC is being mentioned.

freshslicepizza2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

@Brave_Losers_Unite
"Whenever I read articles stating Xbox exclusives, it is such a facepalm to the inaccuracy of the article. PC is the biggest platform to game on and the Xbox crowd puts on the blindfolds whenever PC is being mentioned."

This is why I know it's all posturing on your part. If PC gaming mattered to you then you would be talking about it instead of trying to stain the Xbox as being redundant. You would also be happy to play games like Forza 7 on your PC and talking about those games. Are you? Your goal is to simply say what's the point of the Xbox when I can play on the PC even though I have no interest in PC gaming but I just want to throw it out there to gather attention.

Brave_Losers_Unite2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

@moldybread

I have Forza Horizon 3 on my PC so keep projecting bullcrap that I am some guy who doesn't own a gaming PC or something. Want my steam ID? Want to add me on your Xbox Live account to prove that I have Forza Horizon 3 on PC?

I put most on my time in PC gaming. I have a 2k 144 hz monitor so of course I will choose that over playing at lower frames on the PS4.

"If PC gaming mattered to you then you would be talking about it instead of trying to stain the Xbox as being redundant. "

I am talking about PC in the comment lmao. /r/pcmasterrace even makes fun of Xbox with their Xbox exclusitivity bullcrap. This site is heavily PS4 and Xbox centered. You keep deflecting the point that Xbox has no exclusives and its funny to see you not even acknowledge it because deep down you are probably too embarrased to admit it. Gotta defend Microsoft like its a vital organ

freshslicepizza2494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

@Brave_Losers_Unite
"I have Forza Horizon 3 on my PC so keep projecting bullcrap that I am some guy who doesn't own a gaming PC or something. Want my steam ID? Want to add me on your Xbox Live account to prove that I have Forza Horizon 3 on PC?

I put most on my time in PC gaming. I have a 2k 144 hz monitor so of course I will choose that over playing at lower frames on the PS4. "

Good, that's what I want to hear. This exclusivity stuff seems to take all the headlines, it should be about games and enjoying games, not excluding others. I don't care if Microsoft doesn't want Xbox One only games, how does that make the games better? I want them to make good games, that's it. So far they are very few and far between but them leveraging Windows 10 has nothing to do with that.

Kingthrash3602494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

Exclusives?
Xbox one don't have exclusive games.
But lets pretend that these games are actual exclusives....didn't the 360 have a huge assortment of indie games....are these being counted. I'm sure the xbo indies are.
As far as "xbox has no games" when people say this they mean AAA compelling great games. New ips that impress all and review high. A system seller, like zelda or horizon, or spiderman, or God of war....like big time games.
MS E3 had 0 AAA console exclusive's that say buy my console for this.

LandoCalrissiano2493d ago

MS has quite a few exclusives. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o f_Xbox_One_games

RosweeSon2493d ago

Not only that but wether it's 150 or nearer 300 they still barely have a handful (5-10 tops) that are actually worth grabbing the system for.

_-EDMIX-_2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

@mold-I own a PlayStation 4 and I also own a gaming PC so I don't really know what you mean by mostly ignoring

I don't think of you know that percentage of people that own PC that also own a PlayStation 4 I would assume it's quite higher considering the PlayStation 4 is selling more and you don't need an Xbox One to play Microsoft titles that are also appearing on PC so would be very questionable on why somebody would actually purchase an Xbox One while owning a PC considering all the content is going to both systems and not one exclusively.

Also I don't see the relevance to what you're talking about in regards to Gamers ignoring the PC...

I don't disagree with you obviously Microsoft is good to use Windows to sell their games but that doesn't actually take away the fact that those games are not exclusive , it actually only further confirms their appearing somewhere else.

Sooooo I have no clue where anybody is getting the term exclusive from when these games are appearing on multiple platforms hints the term multiple platform.

This has nothing to do on why people care about PC gaming this actually has everything to do with why anybody should care about Xbox if they're just releasing multi-platform games.

As somebody that owns a PlayStation 4 and a PC I have very little reason to justify ever purchasing an Xbox.,.

S2Killinit2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

Even if we assume xbox has ANY exclusives, that statement isnt saying much. Xbox 360 literally stopped supporting it platform with any major exclusives in the second half of the generation (which is what i assume will happen this generation as well). Secondly, this generation has more small indies than the last.

But most importantly, i wonder if this article is counting the "22 exclusives" that MS touted at this E3. Because, well, we found out MS has a new definition of what is "exclusive".

vega2752492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

@EDMIX

Didn't we have this same conversation before.......hmmmmm. oh yeah here.

http://n4g.com/news/2061196...

Your still on your same BS.

If you think more sonyfanboys own a ps4 and a pc they don't. Many time then not especially on this site sonyfanboy want everyone to believe they have one cause they hate MS and the Xbox. But when a game is released on ps4 and pc. All of a sudden their pc isn't strong enough or they rather play games on their console which is bullshit. So if you have this super powered pc why the hell would you choose ps4 over pc.

F@#k outta here

Relientk772492d ago

How many of these games are ONLY playable on Xbox One

Aka actually exclusive

itsmebryan2492d ago

What a weak response. Consoles are not in competition with PCs. If that was the case no one would have a console. PC has more exclusives then all of the consoles combined. The game are mostly cheaper and look better and run better if you have a rig sting enough.

yeahright22492d ago

@vega I have both a PC and PS4 and I greatly prefer to game on my PS4. Believe it or not, pretty pictures aren't the most important thing to a lot of gamers.

Knushwood Butt2492d ago

Give it up Moldy.

I swear you post in almost every article on this site. How can you even have time for gaming, or anything else?

freshslicepizza2492d ago

_-EDMIX-_
"I don't think of you know that percentage of people that own PC that also own a PlayStation 4 I would assume it's quite higher considering the PlayStation 4 is selling more and you don't need an Xbox One to play Microsoft titles that are also appearing on PC so would be very questionable on why somebody would actually purchase an Xbox One while owning a PC considering all the content is going to both systems and not one exclusively."

I think you are just exaggering PC numbers just to downplay the need for the Xbox. When Destiny 2 ships then come back to me about how much PS4 players revert to PC gaming. Or Call of Duty, or Battlefront 2. Sony would be in major trouble if people went to the PC for multiplat titles.

"As somebody that owns a PlayStation 4 and a PC I have very little reason to justify ever purchasing an Xbox.,."

Microsoft just wants you to be in that space whether it's on Xbox or your Windows 10 PC. After all most revenue is from software and services, not hardware. The fact that there is so little discussion on this forum about PC talk makes me think a lot of it is just posturing at the expense of making Xbox seem irrelevant. We will see and I hope you say is true, I want the PC gaming sector to thrive but what most people here want to talk about are exclusives.

_-EDMIX-_2492d ago

@vega-relax stop overreacting and slow down on the profanity it's really not that serious.

😂

Statistically I would assume more people who own a PlayStation 4 are likely to own a gaming PC then more people who own an Xbox one simply because mathematically more people own a PlayStation 4...

Because those games are also releasing on PC it further questions why anyone would likely own an Xbox in a PC as opposed to a Playstation 4 and a PC.

Mind you I'm not the only one that owns a PlayStation as well as a PC I had many friends last generation that did the same thing you have to understand that when your system is already getting Gears of War Alan Wake both Left 4 Dead games as well as some of the Fable games it becomes sort of difficult to justify really buying an Xbox especially when Mass Effect in BioShock came it was pretty easy to never purchase the system.

Could you imagine how easy it was during the PlayStation 2 generation to never buy an Xbox? Both Knights of the Old Republic ,Fable Doom ,half life 2, both halos... I mean seriously it was a very easy to not purchase that system because I already owned a gaming PC and at that time when I was younger my family could not justify buying a game console for stuff that was already appearing on PC that I literally could play.

You could get as emotional as you want but this is no different than somebody looking at a streaming service that's a literally just offering all the same things on a service they already own.

I mean you're literally asking me to buy a system to play content I could already play right now....

Would you buy a streaming service that was giving you 100% of the same content that could already be had on a service you already own?

Can you even explain such stupidity?

Owning a gaming PC all Every Generation has done to me was reinforced my need to keep owning a gaming PC and I've always upgraded every single generation because of that it was actually cheaper for me to continue to upgrade than it ever was to just buy an Xbox during the start of a generation especially considering it's not as if I was always playing every last one of Microsoft's titles.

I stopped caring about half their properties along time ago I actually didn't even buy the latest Fable game that released on PC I have no plans to buy Halo 6 when it comes to PC so even all of their titles are not even desirable enough for me to buy the software on PC so why would I buy the whole system for Content I'm not even playing on a system I already own?

Think about it.

I mean that's a stupid is telling you to buy a PlayStation 4 to play all of Electronic Arts in Ubisoft and Activision games even though you own an Xbox one I'm sorry but it just doesn't make any logical sense and you guys are sort of turning blue in the face and getting over emotional and sensitive to this subject because of how strange it sounds.

I mean people buy game systems for content if that content is appearing on PC I don't understand the purpose of buying the system.

When I buy a system I'm buying it to play content that I can't already find on platforms I own. Otherwise exactly what is the point?

For just a minute stop getting sensitive about this and look at it from my perspective I mean you're upset that I'm not buying an Xbox one even though all the games are coming to PC in most of their games that came to PC I haven't even purchased.... But buy a system for a Publisher's games that I'm not even playing on PC , a system I already own? 😂😂😂ok pal

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Ceaser98573612492d ago

most of those "Exclusives" games will come on the PS4 :p

LastCenturyRob2492d ago

Th pc platform is irrelevant to console gamers....It's your nappy time lil' troll, time to get off your mommy's computer....L...M...A...O...O. ..O...O

donthate2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

Let's focus on exclusives, because I only play exclusives. If it isn't an exclusive, it is not counted as a game. /s

lmao!

I don't know about you, but in your twisted world, it's negative to get a free copy to play on another platform where all your saves, progress, achievements and friends is available,

Death2492d ago

Are you kids still trying to separate the Xbox tab on Windows 10 from Xbox? Both Windows 10 on PC and Windows 10 on console are part of Xbox. If you are gaming on Windows 10 and enjoying Xbox exclusives under the Xbox tab, congrats, you are an official Xbox gamer. This shouldn't be that difficult to understand. If you think being restricted to a small plastic box makes a game better, God bless.

SynKakarrot2492d ago

u mean the console? lmao xbox is Microsoft and on pc u need an a Microsoft to play the games u so call not exclusive to xbox aka Microsoft they are getting pay either way but yes they are losing (sarcasm) I remember the old days where if u were ask by friends yo do u have this game and u didn't cause u didn't have that console the reply was like oooh that sucks man I don't have that console hows the game and so and so...now on this site same question but answer is ....oohh that system sucks why u own that they don't have this or that jeez...just enjoy what u have and let people enjoy what they like

butchertroll2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

Quote from article ;

"including 22 games with console exclusivity"....

Em......No. Console Launch Exclusivity. That means it will be on PS4 in near future.

4Sh0w2492d ago

As long as they are NOT on ps4 and they are Xbox console or Windows 10 games= they are exclusive.

-So to all the real pc gamers who love Xbox games I say.....Welcome to the Xbox Family!

XanderZane2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

PC = Microsoft. Let me know if you can play any of these games without Microsoft O/S proprietary. Really no different then PSVita games playing on the PS4. They all have some type of exclusive form.

Still Microsoft needs a few more XBox only exclusives; not just console & Microsoft exclusives.

@Brave_Losers_Unite
Gamers put on the blindfold when PC is mentioned because it's NOT a game console. It;s completely irrelevant when it comes to comparing game consoles because PC's are a stagnant system. It can be continuously modified by the owner. Yet, we still get comparisons with hardware and games on PC & consoles, which is a bit silly.

Xb1ps42492d ago

Abviously ms isn't neglecting pc, they are full on supporting it.. what an argument! Lmfaoooo bu bu but... I can play ms games on my pc! So have at it clearly ms isn't forcing you to buy a console, and pc is no console so how is it not a console exclusive?

drunkenspy0072492d ago

I know, it's kinda sad, but some people would just rather play on a console. The blatant ignorance that these are actual exclusives... well, maybe it's just best for the Xb1 console crowd, whatever helps maintain the delusion that their system matters.

indyman77772492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

He is purposely confusing what people are complaining about. And then attacking that. Just like they do in politics. He knows what he is doing. Sneaky deception. People are complaining about lack of AAA 1ST party exclusives, and AAA third party exclusives. Not any old exclusive or games.

zerocarnage2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

They are windows 10 brand exclusives, you can own a pc all you like but if your not invested in the windows 10 brand you won't be playing those games.

Microsoft doesnt care how many different platforms can use the windows 10 brand, those games are exclusive to the windows 10 brand. Your arguement of saying pc can play em which doesn't make the games exclusive isnt even a case at all, because they're all played through windows 10 .(not that it's going to happen because it wont), But say the windows 10 brand appeared on PlayStation just because the PlayStation can play them once a gamer signed up and started paying for Xbox live and paying for those game still would make it exclusive only to windows 10 brand,those games are not open to everyone like the games that are on the psn store.

I can have Netflix on pc, Xbox one and my mobile phone, and anything exclusive or not on Netflix I am unable to play if I don't buy into the subscription of netflix, doesn't matter what platform I am on. I can download netflix all I like on that platform but till the whole concept of buying into there service is achieved, makes me unable to use that said content.

People need to stop seeing this as just because a brand of games or films can be played on another platform makes it not exclusive anymore, when really what they need to see is the whole buy in of the subscription service making any content that isn't made for other platforms exclusive to that brand.

subtenko2492d ago

F no we dont, thats why many of us dont get an Xbox because we can play their games on PC, and we have PS4 for actual exclusives and because well..its PlayStation, they rock

BeOpenMinded2492d ago

I personally don't care if it's xbox or xbox/PC exclusive. You obviously care enough to LMAOOOO

pinkcrocodile752492d ago

I think the correct phrase then is Xbox One and Windows 10 exclusive. PS4 fan's say PC which as we all know is inaccurate. If you have a Linux Distro or a FreeBSD paint job like Mac OSx you're sh1t out of luck.

Now with Microsoft they thought their ecosystem should encompass their Windows infrastructure too hence the incorporation of Xbox gaming and XBL integration into Windows 10.

So if MS talk about new IP's that are First Party, you know the chances are you're getting what you want in a game that you can play on the system you want... as long was it's Windows 10.

So whats the point in moaning?

Link2DaFutcha2492d ago

@moldybread Because there is no reason to own an Xbox if you have a PC, PC can play all the same games, much better depending on the setup. On the note of the original article, there may be more "xbox family (ie. pc+xbox) exclusives, but there aren't many of as high quality. Latest gears was fun, but I can't think of anything that has come out on the xbox that I've thought to myself, shoot I wish I really had one.

Important to note, I build my first PC in 10 years this year and ps4 is the first sony platform I've owned, Huge xbox and 360 fan, but the xbone was a big step back imo.

JackBNimble2492d ago

Wow, it appears that how Phil and his word trickery like "launch exclusive" completely fooled this so called journalists.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2492d ago

I think the author needs to be corrected slightly.

"Xbox One is on track to have more CONSOLE exclusives than the 360"

Cartman551252492d ago

Microsoft makes its games more accessible to gamers by releasing them on PC as well, and they get knocked for it? I don't understand gamers sometimes.

HyperMouse2492d ago

Most console gamers dont care about PC

fr0sty2492d ago

Exclusive, or launch window timed exclusive? Also, one of the 360's biggest weaknesses was over-reliance on third parties, so... Not a good point of comparison.

CryofSilence2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

Moldy, I am a PS4 and PC gamer (primarily PC). So are most PS4 owners I know. Be careful in your generalizations.

JackStraw2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

For once I agree with moldy. You very clearly have a prejudice against Xbox (and the gamers on that platform). Nobody is ignoring PC, the fact that it is the largest gaming platform is just so blatantly obvious to anyone who has been gaming for more than 5 years that it goes without saying. That's called a self-evident truth, and the fact that you don't know what that is as proven by your incessant need to bring it up (as if anyone on this website is unaware of it) shows your insecurity or desire to troll. The only reason you're getting upvotes is because there is a strange desire to hate Xbox fans on this website, which speaks volumes to the maturity level of the majority of its users. Grow up, get laid, and get a job, because the superiority complex you and so many others here have is truly embarrassing, and the sad thing is you're going to want to argue this, but in 10 years time after you realize how much your life sucks you'll understand that you should have listened to that random guy on a gaming website because the whole "the platform I love most has more exclusives than this random guy on the internet's favorite console" troll war meant absolutely nothing.

rainslacker2492d ago

@Moldy

The article is using a metric to count that the people who discuss the number of exclusives don't use when making the argument that a console does or does not have exclusives. Even if you don't consider PC, and leave it to console exclusives, when the argument is made, we are all talking about high profile AAA games, or even less noticed mid-tier games.

If we really want to start including the smaller indie games, then the argument that a console has no games has to go out the window from now to eternity.....which is fine by me. But your argument, and those who say a system has no games, or defend against such arguments, do not count those games, nor do those games make any fan boy list. It's about as meaningful as someone posting those "So and So console has almost 1000 games" links, when half those games are not really all that exciting, or fall into the shovelware side of the indie spectrum.

XisThatKid2491d ago

Seriously why does the PC platform have to master to consoles? I just don't know I'm not being a dick I really want to know. Can anyone please help?

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_-EDMIX-_2492d ago

... so to be clear are we talking about games that can only be found on Xbox One?

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_-EDMIX-_2492d ago

@anx-you upset it's a question you can't answer? That tells me all I need to know about this article , heck that tells me all I need to know about the Xbox

I don't see the point in spending money on a system that is not even giving me content that can't be found anywhere else.

There is no point for me to ever buy an Xbox when all of its content are already coming to systems I already own.

Angeljuice2492d ago

@anxietygamer

You're a broken record with broken logic.
"Console Exclusive" is a bs buzz phrase.
Exclusive means exclusive and if you have to make caveats to justify something as being something it isn't, you have already lost the argument.

Atanasrikard2492d ago

Had to create an account just to post this:
ex·clu·sive

/ikˈsklo͞osiv/

adjective

adjective: exclusive

1. excluding or not admitting other things.
"my exclusive focus is on San Antonio issues"
•unable to exist or be true if something else exists or is true.
"these approaches are not exclusive; many students will combine them"
"mutually exclusive alternatives"

•(of terms) excluding all but what is specified.
"prices exclusive of sales tax"

2. restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned.
"the couple had exclusive possession of the condo"
"a room for your exclusive use"
•(of an item or story) not published or broadcast elsewhere.
"an exclusive interview"
•(of a commodity) not obtainable elsewhere.
"exclusive designer jewelry"

3. catering or available to only a few, select people; high class and expensive.
"an exclusive Georgetown neighborhood"

4. not including; excepting.
"prices are exclusive of tax and delivery"

Can you get the game on PS4? Can you get the game on Switch? If the answer is "no" for either of those questions, then that means it is an exclusive. Xbox is clearly not for you if there is no game available on it that you can't get on PC. Which is perfectly fine with Microsoft. As long as you are purchasing the software for your system of choice, it's okay with them. There are plenty of people who don't game on PC and won't game on PC that Xbox is targeted towards.

So, if you have your monster PC and no Xbox exclusive entices you to get the 1X, feel free to leave as anything Xbox doesn't pertain to you.

Death2492d ago

@ed,

If you are playing Microsoft Xbox games under the Microsoft Xbox tab in Microsoft Windows 10, you already own an Xbox platform. If this upsets you you can always uninstall and go buy an Xbox. I'm not sure what part of this makes you unhappy.

XanderZane2492d ago

I think they are talking about games that can't be found on the PS4 or Switch. Last I check, those were the game consoles competing with XBox One.
https://media.giphy.com/med...

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Why o why2492d ago

Damage control. . . in many ways.

vega2752492d ago

@ yeahright

"Believe it or not, pretty pictures aren't the most important thing to a lot of gamers"

This statement is why i don't believe you. Gamers who build their rigs for performance and graphic which is why they buy expensive graphics catd and cpus. So when you say pretty pictures aren't important. I find your statement full of s@$t.

EDMIX.

"Statistically" do you have that or are you pulling that out your @ss. I'll go eith the latter cuase you don't have that and asuming.

Pc gamers eith given the choice between the ps4 or pc would pick pc. Becauseof performance and graphics. Which is why they constsntly look down on console owners. Also with deals on steam and other digital outlets compared to consoleis a no brainer.

"I mean you're literally asking me to buy a system to play content I could already play right now"

I'm not asking you to buy anything. You need to read and stop asuming i want you to do anything but be honest and consistant.

yeahright22491d ago

What if I just want to play her story, witcher 1, pillars of eternity? do I need to have the latest and greatest to play those games? I got a decent PC, I don't need to run watch dogs 2 in 8K to enjoy the game. I just want to play games. I don't need to max out settings in order to do that. Further, I didn't say it wasn't important. I said it wasn't the most important. For me it goes plot/chracters first, gameplay second, graphics third. you honestly think someone isn't capable of wanting to play a PC exclusive unless they put resolution above all else? what an odd way of thinking. But you don't have to believe me. steam id is princekai13. you can hit me up whenever you like.

Godz Kastro2492d ago

Look at all the haters and their disagrees. Microsoft was awarded as the company who showed the most games at e3. Sony came in second. You can disagree but do me a favor and check the stats before you do.

QUIMICOMORTAL2492d ago

And where are they? what 2017 exclusives have you been playing?

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xxGamerxx2492d ago

Obscure_Observer you can't make comments on here like that. This is a PlayStation site. Look at how many people disagree with your praise.

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Da12RespectA2492d ago

Look at the hate. 169 down votes for saing something positive. Wow!

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PhoenixUp2494d ago

Even with those exclusives, the Xbox One is still on track to sell less hardware than Xbox 360

SCW19822494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

It's actually not. It's out pacing the 360 at this time it's just the PS4 is trouncing it.

tyasia02494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

That's wrong. XBone started off strong but it has been outsold month after month by 360 for almost 2 years straight.

Xbox One Vs. Xbox 360 Global:

Gap change in latest month: 122,411 – X360

Gap change over last 12 months: 3,064,172 – X360

Total Lead: 194,337 – X360

Xbox One Total Sales: 29,589,654

Xbox 360 Total Sales: 29,783,991

http://www.vgchartz.com/art...

darthv722494d ago

As interesting as those numbers may be... the underline fact is that every one of those xbo sales is a bonified sale unlike on the 360 where there is a percentage that are replacement sales of units that were defective.

A sale is a sale none the less but when you factor in the RRoD... it makes the xbo sales that much more prominent. xbo IS outselling the 360 and there is no denying that.

tyasia02494d ago

@TheColbertinator

I agree they over track Xbox and under track PlayStation.

UltraNova2493d ago

"Vgchartz? Fake news"

Was it fake news during last gen as well?

AmUnRa2493d ago

No just no, thats wishfull thinking of xboxfanatics.

RosweeSon2493d ago

It hasn't been for a longtime how can an under performing in any way you wanna look at it console be selling more than a console that even with all its launch issues managed to clear 80-85 million consoles Xbox one is barely clearly 30 currently... unless they planning Mass reductions in its later life and even then would still need some more games they are never gonna clear 50 million let alone 80. So how is it tracking anywhere near 360 which was actually continually outselling PS3 month after month especially in the US.

andrewsquall2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

@darthv72 Wait, are you actually acknowledging the average 3 Xbox 360 consoles that most Xbots had over the course of last gen???
Sweet, so how many Xboners went out and bought the Xbone S to get rid of that horrible power brick and eyesore brick of a console? How many XboneX's do you reckon will be purchased ONLY by the same people yet again?

Or is it too soon, do you want to admit that in another 8 years time.

@RosweeSon How is that? From the day PS3 launched it was catching up to 360 and overtook it too.

BlackTar1872492d ago

Death I'm betting you big this is the only time you will use rrod for sales.

Those rrod barely existed when it was a user base argument all last gen.

darthv722492d ago

@andrew and tar, i have used RRoD in relation to xb1 sales many times. It is no secret that RRoD contributed to the overall units sold of the 360 but there is no such thing on the xbo. People who bought multiple xbo units did so of their own free will, not out of necessity like the 360.

I am somewhat of an anomaly. I intentionally have 5 xb360 units and only 1 of them suffered the RRoD and was repaired. The other 4 i purchased because they are variants to the original (I am a hardware collector... go figure). It should also come as no surprise that there are those who will buy multiple of something if they feel each one is different than the other. Case in point... hardware collectors go for the color and model variants of systems like the N64, PS2 and 360 / PS3.

Hell, I have 5 PS2 as well, each one is different from the next. As to your point (andrew) about people upgrading their xbo well yeah that can and does happen. Just like people have upgraded their ps4. How many is unknown unless Sony were to release a breakdown of the individual sku's. We know the slim is the better seller vs the pro and it may be the same situation for the 1x as well. At some point I will have all 3 versions of the xbo just as i will have all 3 versions of the ps4. Right now i only have the base model on both and will get the others when the time is right.

PunisherRevenge2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

@tyasia0
This is the problem with fanboys they need to learn how to use Google. If you used it you would know that according to Xbox France the Xbox One has sold 36 million units as of December 2016. Which means it's at about 40 million now. So VGCharts is fake news. My advice to you is learn how to do better research and leave VGCharts alone.
https://www.gamespot.com/fo...

tyasia02492d ago

@PunisherRevenge

If YOU knew what you were talking about you would know that that number came from an unofficial "xbox fan site" which was debunked as it's estimates are WAY (6-8 million) higher than all other sales tracking firms.

Chevalier2492d ago

@Punisher

" This is the problem with fanboys they need to learn how to use Google. If you used it you would know that according to Xbox France the Xbox One has sold 36 million units as of December 2016. Which means it's at about 40 million now. So VGCharts is fake news. My advice to you is learn how to do better research and leave VGCharts alone.
https://www.gamespot.com/fo...

Before you insult someone you should ACTUALLY take the time to read your OWN link. If you read further down a couple comments you would see that someone already debunked those claims because ironically the France Xbox Wiki link is in fact updated using VGchartz numbers. Which again Xbox numbers are always bumped up and overtracked.

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Rhythmattic2492d ago

My input, Ive got to take into account the many friends that bought Multiple 360's due to RROD...Obviously before MS admitted there was an issue....
As for my numbers, 4 friends with Xbox's bought anywhere from 2 -4 machines !!!
Desperate times with Desperate Measures...
So, I can see its not all bad for MS.. Have they sold more? Maybe, but I'm thinking a lot more owners this gen.

InTheZoneAC2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

Well that's your fault for sticking with them for whatever reason despite going through multi consoles.

Sounds like a GM Owner, recalls for days yet continues to buy their products.

Rhythmattic2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

Maybe i should be more clear.
"As for my FRIENDS numbers"
I bought one.... One.. and with my friends systems dropping like flies, and the lies that were uncovered , I never trusted MS again.
MS's true form..

rainslacker2492d ago

Unfortunately, we don't know the exact number of repurchases, or how much of MS reported sales numbers were from those types of things, so going into this gen, we can't compare the too to see if MS is growing since last gen. All the evidence about sales in RROD rebuys are all anecdotal, with nothing concrete. MS is likely the only one who knows the real numbers, and I can't see them ever releasing the number of people who purchased more than one system.

Rhythmattic2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

All im saying is 360 had extra sales to repurchases... What are the numbers? Who knows, but it definitely added to consoles sold...Thats a fact.

Point is, though behind in sales compared to Sony, the One is doing really well for MS this gen.

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affrogamer2494d ago

yea but how good are these exclusives compared to the ones on 360?

lelo2play2494d ago

^^
THIS.

Quantity doesn't mean quality.
It's better to have 10 great exclusives then 100 average exclusives.

iDadio2493d ago

Currently it barely has 10 average exclusives...

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

Forza 5
Sunset Overdrive
and some Kinect games that no one cares about. Oh, and Halo 5.

DigitalRaptor2492d ago

All true.

Xbox 360 had plenty of 90+ rated remarkable exclusive games.
Xbox One only has one 90+ rated exclusive that came after 3 years.

rainslacker2492d ago

Much of 360's success last gen was due to the rather compelling and highly rated exclusives they were bringing out. Not just from MS studios, but from some 3rd party deals like with BioShock and Mass Effect. I think MS lost sight of that. Either that, or they don't realize what makes a compelling exclusive. A few glimmers in their line up, but mostly just banking on their big 3, and struggling to excite with the new IP's or other AAA/mid-tier titles they are/were working on.

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N1GHT_W0LF_X2492d ago

Also let's not pretend like the 360 had a humongous library of exclusives. This benchmark isn't that difficult to surpass if you think about it. The last three years of the 360's life before X1 released they had about one (maybe two) exclusives per year and most of those were trash like Gears of War: Judgement and Halo Wars.

itBourne2492d ago

Lmao, the 360 library wasnt anything to celebrate, Microsoft stopped supporting the console after the first 3 years just like they did the first xbox. Microsoft rather then make games throws a bunch of money at some indie games, half of which I can play right this second on steam, and all the sudden they have exclusives? The N4G podcast I hear the guy bitch and moan about the Sony Destiny deal, and its despicable that Sony is paying to keep content away from Xbox gamers, yet 30 minutes earlier he praises Microsoft for "getting" all these exclusives lmao?

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XiNatsuDragnel2494d ago

LMAO bro I'm going to honest how many one platform exclusives does xb1 have? In my opinion significantly less. Because even Nintendo and Sony both actually exclusives targeting a single platform. While, Xbox significant has less of those.

andrewsquall2492d ago

Forza 5, Sunset Overdrive, (just like in 2014, Halo Masterchief Edition is only a "silly" remaster and of course doesn't count), Halo 5.......................... and that's about it.

XiNatsuDragnel2492d ago

Yep about 4 Xbox only games.....

_-EDMIX-_2492d ago

You know what's funny? For how long? Master Chief collection sounds like an amazing title for them to just throw on PC.

But you are correct there is very little actual exclusives on that platform to really make anyone purchase it

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jrshankill2492d ago

PSNow is on PC
PSNow is soon receiving PS4 games

Congrats.

yeahright22492d ago

PS Now games won't launch day and date with PS4 games on PC. That's a big difference that you're purposefully ignoring. But it doesn't matter. we all know that when we say exclusives what we really mean is a game the other system can't play. It's just not the best phrase to describe it. I'd rather we call them MS exclusives and Sony exclusives. Everything else just feels like arguing semantics.

At the end, their point is that Xbox 1 is redundant if you have or get a PC and your point is they still can't play xbox games on a Playstation.

jrshankill2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

@yeahright2
Moot. Will still be playing PS4 games on a PC.
"PS Now games won't launch day and date with PS4 games on PC." - Just like MS Console exclusives.

@_-EDMIX-_
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/gam...
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
http://www.ign.com/articles...

QUIMICOMORTAL2492d ago

Ahh port begging? so where are they? you just need to wait for 3 years and stream the games...but, where is second son? bloodborne? forget about uncharted or horizon...

Congrats

yeahright22492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

You: "PS Now games won't launch day and date with PS4 games on PC." - Just like MS Console exclusives.

ahem
•Halo Wars 2 (PC, Xbox One) – February 21
•Voodoo Vince: Remastered (PC, Xbox One) – April 18
•Tacoma (PC, Xbox One) – August 8
•Cuphead (PC, Xbox One) – September 29
•Forza 7 (PC, Xbox One) – October 3
•Crackdown 3 (PC, Xbox One) – November 7
•Super Lucky’s Tale (PC, Xbox One) – November 7
•Sea of Thieves (PC, Xbox One) – early 2018
so except that .. you know... not just like. All the upcoming xbox 1 games releasing day and date with play anywhere.

care to list all the PS4 games releasing day and date on PSnow?

But you are right on the first part of your reply. In context, it doesn't matter when they come to PC, the fact is you can play them without a PS4. hence, why I advocate for calling them MS exclusives and Sony exclusives since what we all are referring to is "your console can't play X game." So even if they do happen to release day and date, it really doesn't matter that much. Like I said the first time, semantics.

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tyasia02494d ago (Edited 2494d ago )

Wow 147... PS4 has 107 fully exclusive games and another 394 console exclusives.

So I guess using the logic of this article PS4 will have 296 fully exclusives and 788 console exclusives

So Xbone with 294 or PS4 with 1084... choice seems obvious to me... PS4

freshslicepizza2494d ago

Well if it's so obvious then why do you seem to spend more of your time talking about Xbox than Playstation? You created this new account just for that reason, we all know that. This is something that continues to haunt Microsoft is they have people who are so adament about their dislike for the company they will go out of their way to let it be known.

Personally I think the company has gotten better in a lot of ways but the internal studios making software is still a big black hole.

SCW19822494d ago

I use to hate you but your speaking truth.

Inzo2493d ago

"Well if it's so obvious then why do you seem to spend more of your time talking about Xbox than Playstation?"

Gees, I swear Xbox fanboys such as yourself always try to play they victim of trolling while at the same time being the biggest trolls on this site. You are the embodiment of "hypocrite" seeing that you are more on PS4 articles than Xbox articles.

robleroy2492d ago

Microsoft first party studios:
343 Industries – Halo series
Microsoft Casual Games Team – Solitaire, Mahjong, Minesweeper, Bingo, Jigsaw
Turn 10 Studios – Forza Motorsport series
Lift London
Rare – Banjo-Kazooie series, Viva Piñata, Kameo: Elements of Power, Conker, Kinect Sports, Sea of Thieves.
Mojang – Minecraft
The Coalition – Gears of War series

Sony First party studios:

Japan Studio – Ape Escape series - LocoRoco series - Legend of Legaia series - The Eye of Judgment series - Echochrome series - Everybody's Golf series - Patapon series - White Knight Chronicles series - The Legend of Dragoon - Talkman - Rogue Galaxy - Mainichi Issho - Piyotama - The Last Guy - Demon's Souls - Trash Panic - Numblast - Kung Fu Rider - Beat Sketcher - Bleach: Soul Resurrección - Puppeteer - Knack - The Playroom - Destiny of Spirits - Bloodborne - The Tomorrow Children
J.S.E.D.D. - Soul Sacrifice - Soul Sacrifice Delta - Freedom Wars
PlayStation C.A.M.P. - Tokyo Jungle - Rain - Patchwork Heroes[64][65] - Open Me![66]
Team Gravity – Siren series - Gravity Rush - Gravity Rush 2
Team Ico - Ico - Shadow of the Colossus - The Last Guardian
Polyphony Digital – Gran Turismo series - Motor Toon Grand Prix series - Tourist Trophy - Omega Boost
ForwardWorks - Unannounced mobile games
Naughty Dog - Crash Bandicoot series - Jak and Daxter series - Uncharted series - The Last of Us - The Last of Us Remastered
Bend Studio - Syphon Filter series - Resistance: Retribution - Uncharted: Golden Abyss - Uncharted: Fight for Fortune - Days Gone
San Diego Studio - MLB: The Show series - NBA series - ModNation Racers series - Sports Champions series - The Mark of Kri - Pain - High Velocity Bowling - Pinball Heroes - Medieval Moves: Deadmund's Quest - LittleBigPlanet Karting
Santa Monica Studio - God of War series - Twisted Metal series - PixelJunk series - Fat Princess series - Kinetica - Downhill Domination - War of the Monsters - The Con - Neopets: The Darkest Faerie Blast Factor - Flow Calling All Cars! - Warhawk - Everyday Shooter - Linger in Shadows - Flower - .detuned - Carnival Island - Escape Plan - Journey - Datura - Starhawk - Sorcery - Sound Shapes, The Unfinished Swan - PlayStation All-Stars: Battle Royale - Hohokum - Fat Princess: Piece of Cake[67] - The Order: 1886 - Everybody's Gone to the Rapture - Bound
Sucker Punch Productions – Sly Cooper series - Infamous series
Pixelopus - A small team within SCE Worldwide Studios[68] - Entwined
Guerrilla Games – Killzone series - Horizon Zero Dawn
London Studio - SingStar series - DanceStar Party series - EyeToy series, EyePet series - Wonderbook series - The Getaway series - This is Football series - World Tour Soccer series - Passport To... series - PlayStation Home - NBA ShootOut '97 - Porsche Challenge - Rapid Racer - Spice World - Team Buddies - Hardware: Online Arena - Fired Up - Gangs of London - Aqua Vita - Operation Creature Feature - The Trials of Topoq - Mesmerize Distort - Tori-Emaki - Mesmerize Trace - Beats - RA. One: The Game - DON 2 The Game
North West Studio – New studio in North West England focused on creating VR games for PlayStation VR
Media Molecule – LittleBigPlanet series - Tearaway - Tearaway Unfolded - Dreams

Microsoft is not into making a lot of AAA exclusives.
Stop dreaming

LP-Eleven2492d ago

The reason MS doesn't have to try harder is because fans like you don't push them to. You just eat up whatever they tell you and that's it...

@Inzo: Well said!

andrewsquall2492d ago

@moldybread Seriously? You just went on the other day how PS4 players out number the other formats put to together. Then WHY do we see this "victim" comment every single day from one of you? And if its not that comment, its the one about "why aren't you playing your games if you have so many".

Sounds like there are plenty of you to go around here with the same boring EXCUSE, with no actual argument or defense, over and over again.

InTheZoneAC2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

Why defend Ms or deflect any argument against them? Let xbox die already

InTheZoneAC2492d ago

@roble, you forgot super stardust hd, an excellent arcade game that took up lots of playtime on ps3/Vita and some on ps4.

And maybe one day we'll get Socom to return ...

QUIMICOMORTAL2492d ago

Cause people that have likes to mock those that doesn't!

DigitalRaptor2492d ago (Edited 2492d ago )

@ andrewsquall

Moldybread is full of feeble excuses, just like he's the most egregious hypocrite on N4G.

I remember when he lied that Sony was downsizing their first-party painting it as a bad thing, and when Microsoft actually fully downsized and closed 8 of their first-party studios/projects in early 2016 he didn't say a thing, and wouldn't start acknowledging it until the noise got too loud when Scalebound was canceled and the integrity of their first-party games in full question. He only brings up this kind of stuff casually now and then to look balanced when he's actually biased AF and completely disingenuous. Take a look at the concern trolling he throws around in Sony articles and just ask yourself why he never goes to the lengths he does when Microsoft make similar decisions.

Case in point - and I'll keep saying this - Moldybread is more concerned with Sony's cross-play decisions on a console he doesn't own, than acknowledging the fact that Microsoft doesn't allow cross-play between Windows 10 store players and Steam on the platform he claims to prefer and games on. He'll kick up a fuss and use negative articles about cross-play to raise a stink about Sony and its fans, but he'll NEVER, EVER, EVER hold the same standards for Microsoft doing the exact same thing. What a sensational hypocrite this guy is.

If you want some added laughs, he said that he thought State of Decay 2 looked "great" when there was literally zero game footage out there, but thinks that Days Gone looks average now, after its second more interesting showing. He's all over the place with double standards, and the agenda he tries to hide, I think is really starting to be blown wide apart.

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Chatting Shadows of the Damned: Hella Remastered with Suda51

CGM Writes: While we were over at PAX East, we were able to sit down with Goichi Suda (Suda51) and talk about the upcoming remaster of Shadows of the Damned

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Sega Franchises That Deserve a Comeback

We explore the Sega classics that are ripe for revival! From Panzer Dragoon Saga to Virtua Fighter, discover why these legendary games deserve a comeback on next-gen consoles. Dive into a nostalgic journey and see which Sega titles are set to captivate a new generation of gamers in 2024.

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ZeekQuattro4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Turned based Phantasy Star and Shinning Force remain at the top of my list of Sega IPs that need to return. At the very least I'd take a Shining Force collection that has 1,2,3, CD and the Game Gear entries.

FinalBoss4d ago

I was hesitant to put these two on. I've personally played more PSO than the RPG version. And shame on me, I don't remember much about Shining Force to talk about it properly.

That said, so many Sega licences deserve their place in this list.

jznrpg2d ago

A new Phantasy Star in the numbered series would be amazing. Shining Force too. But I’d settle on some collections as that’s probably the best we will get

anast4d ago

I don't trust Sega to do a proper comeback. The games will be just remastered and/or monetized to death.

gold_drake3d ago

shining force.

but indont see that happening unfortunately.

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Former Blizzard President Suggests Players Should Have Option to Tip Developers

Former Blizzard president Mike Ybarra recently suggested an interesting concept that has sparked a debate among gamers - the idea of being able to tip developers after completing a game.

LG_Fox_Brazil10d ago

If I had a 100% way to be sure that this money would go to a fund or a reserve dedicated only to the guys who develop the games, be them designers, artists, programmers and so on, I could think about it.

But we all know that this 'tip' would only end up in a publisher's CEO pocket to buy a new yacht, so, no, I ain't tipping anyone anytime soon on this industry

neutralgamer19929d ago

Exactly these companies were raising money for good causes and gamers were donation and come to find out they are keeping a good chunk of be pie

PapaBop9d ago

Yeah tip your developer, 5% proceeds go to developer, 95% to the publisher or whoever. Isn't tipping for staff not making minimum wage? How about they just pay their developers properly and like you know, give them fair bonuses? Too much to ask from Blizzard these days, Kotick saw to that and is now laughing all the way to the bank.

MrDead9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

It's the t**ts at the top looking at ways to cut devs wages and get the players to tip them like waiting staff, and I'll guarantee a percentage is skimmed and kept by Activision Blizzard. This is 100% for shareholder and CEO playouts.

Popsicle9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I have to agree with this. On the surface tipping devs sounds like a great idea, but in the end it leads to pay cuts and subsidization of pay. Tips then become an expectation or the devs “can’t make a living.” Lastly, especially in the US, tip culture has gotten out of control, and it serves as an excuse not to properly pay employees. Sounds good but doesn’t end well.

drizzom8d ago

@ Popsicle

I think your right on the nose with how much tipping has become rampant. Instead of it being a relationship directly between the customer and the developer or employee, it now has a middle man ingrained in the system. DoorDash is one example. It ends up becoming a metric where the company can measure 'just how much more money you are willing to part with' before raising the price on the main product.

1Victor9d ago

Uh so they’re trying triple dip or more we buy the game that they’re already withholding/cutting content for dlc we was told that season pass would help the developers thrive we felt for it.
Now on top of all that plus their sales bonus they want tips enough is enough whatever happens to you create/built a good game get a bonus for sales milestones you care about your game and community we reward you with more sales not for doing 3/4 of a game then save the other 1/4 for dlc and passes after

raWfodog9d ago

The 'tip' is me buying your game in the first place.

S2Killinit9d ago

Very well said. If it was possible to send the money to either the developer or some organization for the betterment of gaming, sure. But we all know that will not be the case.

Rynxie9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

No, it would go to those on the top. They will still fire developers, have a bunch of microtransactions, raise prices of games and so on.

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H910d ago

So they eventually don't pay their workers and depend on our tips to pay them like the case with waiters!

Deeeeznuuuts9d ago

That kind of practice is only normal in the states, as far as I know anyway, what a backwards system

H99d ago

No it's as well in a every country that wants to amercanize

bloop9d ago

Ireland is literally the first stop across the pond and we don't have a tipping culture. The only establishments here that would expect a tip are the tourist haunts that Americans visit. Other than that, you might tip in a restaurant as a sign of gratitude for great service and waiting staff would be paid a full wage anyway.

Rebel_Scum9d ago

Tipping is not customary iin most countries dude. Get a passport lol.

Jin_Sakai10d ago

Is this a joke? How about the big wigs giving up some of their pay for their hard working developers.

MrBaskerville9d ago

Maybe the CEO could earn his money based on tips.

mastershredder10d ago

good god. The devs are not baristas dude. Total 1% ideals. Fing Chadosaurus.

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