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Project CARS 2 Isn't Running at 4K nor at Locked 60FPS on Consoles, Including Xbox One X

Ian Bell, CEO of Slightly Mad Studios, refuted the claim that Project CARS 2 would run at 4K and 60fps on Xbox One X. The target will be lower on both XB1X and PS4 Pro.

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KaiPow2498d ago

I hope there's at least an option to toggle between frame rate/resolution. There's definitely screenshot potential with some of those sexy machines.

thekhurg2498d ago

Where are all the xbots from that other article claiming 4k/60fps on this game not possible on other consoles?

Dezmond2498d ago

I'm an Xbot and I don't care.

ssmilloy362498d ago

dezmond. you clicked so you care

81BX2498d ago

Thekhurg spends all his time trolling... I think it's cute ;)

Brave_Losers_Unite2498d ago

You see Xbots don't care because they don't have feelings. They are robots who have one command which is to defend their console till someone deactivates them

LexHazard792498d ago

Dude... The article claimed it was promised to do 4K/60fps. So gamers were basing it off that. Obviously it was a bad source if the CEO has to come out and refute the claim.
Its still probably gonna run better than PS4 Pro. Lol...

WickedLester2498d ago

If you're an Xbot why do you even care about PC2? Odds are you're playing Forza anyway.

B1uBurneR2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

I'm one, questions did you for a second felt this article puts both consoles on the same playing field? Ha! Too funny at the end of the Day US xbots knows unless dev chose parity, the best console version will be on the oX. ☺

It makes more sense for us Xbots to get excited over 4K natives news because the system is so far from release so devs still have time make improvements. 4Pro has been out for months yet we see more 1440p news than 4K. I guess the Other guys have to come to xbots articles for 4K news.. no hate jump in at launch.

MegamanXXX2498d ago

Said it once going to say it again the consoles cpu is to blame

Krysis2498d ago

I'm sure your parents love you even if they don't say it, or show it.

XanderZane2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

I still believe they were running it at native 4K 60fps on XB1X. Why would Slightly Mad Studios’ Game Director Stephen Viljoen even mention it if it wasn't true? Sounds to me like someone was forcing them to have parity, which is BS. There's no question this game could, would and should run better on the XB1X then any other game console.

This line alone pretty much tells us that someone didn't like that the XB1X version would be much better.
""We don’t like the term ‘locked’. It would put us in first party territory where chest beating is more important than a great experience."

blackout2498d ago

Where are they. Let me gues, waiting on FORZA 7's 4k 60. PlayStation fans could have it, I will be playing the definitive shooter on my X1X.

DARK_WOLF2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

With scalable resolutions there is no excuse for not having 'locked' 60fps on all consoles with this game.

Its not about chest beating. Its about a smooth racing experience.

Even the slightest fps hiccup can wreck your corner and potentially make you crash in games like this where your on the edge of what the car can do.

That chest beating comment is stupid and smells of salt.

Gunstar752498d ago

Oh c'mon....

Change your pathetic fanboy narrative all you like.

At the end of the day....

HIGH end $1000+ PC>xb1x>psrpro>ps4> ;xb1

I know where my money is going

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LordJamar2498d ago

why are you trying to start a war? are you really that butt hurt

headblackman2498d ago

did they say that it was already running at 4k 60fps or did they promise that it will (meaning when it's released?) just asking :-/

jasonpugh2498d ago

It's a freaking racing game. If it can't be done on PS4 Pro or Xbox One X it's weak.

medman2498d ago

+thekhurg
They up and disappeared like farts in the wind. Good riddance to stinky rubbish.

UCForce2498d ago

@81BX Oh no, buddy ! That isn't the case. @thekhurg is right.

GameHead852497d ago

I knew thie XBOTX couldn't handle games like this at 4k at 60fps, I had high hopes though, cause I wanted to try this thing, see if microsoft stood by there word. I played all the Forza games from the 1st all the way up to the FH3.
Undoubtedly, this is the 3rd or 4th article I read saying that this thing can not handle 4k 60FPS on different games as well.

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DarXyde2498d ago

Would you really choose resolution over frame rate in a racing game?

To me, that's as strange as choosing Movie Mode in Ni Oh.

USMC_POLICE2498d ago

In racing I'll take frame rate over resolution any day.

Gunstar752498d ago

Look at the frame rate bitches coming out the woodwork.

I think 60hz makes a game come alive, but it only really matters in fighters and fps games...

Yet you all blurt over Destiny lol

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GNCFLYER2498d ago

Only evolution studios pulled that off with DC.

DarXyde2497d ago (Edited 2497d ago )

Gunstar75,

If you think frame rate only matters for fighting games, you must be trash at other genres. ANY game where input timing matters should have a fluid frame rate. It does not matter for turn based RPGs, but it does matter for fast paced action games. Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden, and NieR: Automata are a few examples of this. Racing games certainly benefit from it, especially when the sense of speed is greater. It demands fast reaction times, you fool.

Also, I don't care about Destiny and have made no comment on it, so you can stop that. But if I must, it should be 60fps if it's a twitch shooter. I don't know that it is since it's not something I've cared to look into.

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dumahim2498d ago

Yeah, with most people not having 4k, using some extra power for faster, or at least more stable, framerates is greatly appreciated.

tee_bag2422498d ago

That's always an option I'd want. I'm pretty sure it's getting CPU bottlenecked rather than GPU bottlenecked on both consoles. Project cars despite its comparisons to arcade racers had a ton of physics going on.

butchertroll2498d ago

What a glorious backpedaling from some members here. Promises = it will be.

http://n4g.com/news/2072235...

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Angainor72498d ago

Forza 7 is 4K/60. Am i missing something here or third parties don't even bother to optimize for 1X?

Gazondaily2498d ago

"We don’t like the term ‘locked’. It would put us in first party territory where chest beating is more important than a great experience."

Ouch- what's with this sodium?!

"We’ll be 60 most of the time in normal racing and we’ll push the consoles to and beyond their limits for more interesting racing. Even if that means dropping a few frames."

Well its a shame but we'll see the end results. Perhaps this game is pushing the consoles to their absolute limits

timotim2498d ago

I actually don't have a problem with that, depending on what they call "a few frames". If they can get it where a few means between 50-60 then I say bring it. But if a few means 20 then no thanks.

Ricegum2498d ago

Septic

So much for that beast eh. Looks like another game where all versions will be running pretty much the same then.

Gazondaily2498d ago

"So much for that beast eh. Looks like another game where all versions will be running pretty much the same then."

Lol oh we'll see.....we'll see.

You guys really want it to be the same...its understandable.

But soon you will witness the POWER OF THE BEAST! ♏

Aenea2498d ago

Aww, the poor beast isn't capable enough! Perhaps put it out of it's misery and make a nice meal out of it, one that's better than falafal! 😜

Phoenix762498d ago

@Septic

I have question need to ask you mate...... Do you actually play any games? As I see you on nearly every single article when I pop on

Gazondaily2498d ago

N4G is the best metagame!

DARKKENT2498d ago

Septic and this 'the beast nonsense'

To think this is actually a grown man that shaves

Scary and sad at the same time

Gazondaily2498d ago

Ah Darkkent- what's worse, using the term or others squirming uncomfortably as they can't fathom....the true POWER OF THE BEAST!

Don't sheg me braav

Juiceid2498d ago

Oh man, I hope you are right about the x. You should change your tag to 'optimistic' instead of septic. I'm not as optimistic about the x, but I'm hoping for the best!

Shuckylad2498d ago

If your rocking a freesync monitor with your 1X you won't even feel the dropping frames.

Legacy2122498d ago

@unreal
It's really sad to see how insecure some people are. Games haven't even been shown yet and people here already are saying "they're going to look the same" lol oh man shadow of war will like a word with you. Maybe if you wish on a shooting star you can make 6 teraflops vs 4.2 and 4.5 vs 9gb of ram look the same lolololol. Geeze I wonder what u thought about 900p vs 1080p debalacle

MegamanXXX2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

Microsoft should have put a Zen cpu in. But I know they were trying to keep the cost down and it's understandable. All they did was overclock the Jaguar cpu a little just like Sony but unfortunately that didn't help to much to get 4K 60fps

Phoenix762498d ago

@septic

N4G is the best metagame!

Please elaborate the context of that statement.

Sevir2498d ago

Power of the Beast is the new coin... what happen to power of the clouds?

You guys are grasping for everything i swear

Gazondaily2498d ago

The power of the cloud is coming! Crackdown brehs!

UCForce2498d ago

"But soon you will witness the POWER OF BEAST" Ugh, I don't want to say this, but you speaking like a cult.

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trainsgofast2498d ago

"It sounds like the game will run at lower than 4K and slower than 60fps even on Xbox One X and PlayStation 4 Pro, then." No one said this from the developer. WOW So it will be 4k dynamic resolution/60-55FPS. Ok that's why i have Forza 7.

nowitzki20042498d ago

Feel so bad for you guys, You really believed MS again.

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thekhurg2498d ago

3rd parties aren't going to optimize for all platforms. They're going to code for the original xbox one, and just upscale from there across all of the other consoles.

343_Guilty_Spark2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

That's not how it works. You don't set targets low then scal up, you go high then scale down and find the happy medium for quality and performance

Guyfamily9992498d ago

It's crazy how people don't understand this. The amount of base Xbox Ones and PS4s out there absolutely dwarves the amount of mid gen consoles there are.

DarXyde2498d ago

343_ guilty_ spark,

No. Have you never heard the term "developing for the lowest common denominator"? There's a reason games only developed for PlayStation for example look and/or perform noticeably better than multiplatform titles.

So no, you don't start high. You start low to make sure you have a foundation in place, followed by upward tweaks for newer hardware. Your logic only works with mobile devices.

XanderZane2498d ago

It's actually the total opposite. Developers have already came out and said they would code for the top consoles first and then downscale it to run on the older platforms. It's the same way they do it on PC's.

TriniXLNC2498d ago

Incorrect. All console dev kits have higher specs than their market counterparts. Developers go high then scale down till they find the optimal performance. But this also goes to show how highly optimized the Forza engine is, especially since the Turn 10 geniuses can pull of 4K/60fps with GPU power to spare. While there is no doubt that not all games will be native 4K/60 fps, depending on studios' capabilities, hardware (mainly CPU) limitations, and developers' choices as where to allocate their resources, I will give credit to where its due....The X is a powerful machine. But ultimately when I play my games, as long as I find it looks and runs good, then I'll be happy....just as I am with my current fave, Horizon Zero Dawn on PS4 Pro. While it is checkerboarding, it looks good on my Samsung KS8500. As long as the game look good in your eyes, it shouldn't matter what other people think. Just enjoy the games, folks!

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bluefox7552498d ago

First party games are always more optimized than 3rd party games. Forza being one of the most optimized.

livedeht2498d ago

Hence the importance of Microsoft to invest in 1st party, only then will Xbonex be fully utilized. Until then it will see parity.

MegamanXXX2498d ago

So basically they need more first party studios and games

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Rude-ro2498d ago

You are talking about an exclusive game engine that has been used for many years. Pushing 4k textures on an sole Xbox one game is not hard to accomplish. It is litterally forza 6 dialed up for xox...

A third party developer is focused on the current market share with PS4 and Xbox one.
Dialing up anything comes down to the tools provided to them for the mid gen console upgrades.
From the sounds of it, those tools have not been in developers hands for very long being most games are just putting the shine on the current games releasing within the next 6 months.

KingKionic 2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

" It is literally forza 6 dialed up for xox"

It is vastly far beyond Forza 6 just dialed up. Digital Foundry already mentioned this in there rundown.

https://youtu.be/T85Fshj2ei...

It crushes Forza 6 Apex maxed out on PC.

Lets stop the nonsense here.

Aenea2498d ago

@Kionic

"Lets stop the nonsense here."

Yeah, let's! Why don't you start first?

Rude-ro2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

@KionicWarlord222

https://m.youtube.com/watch...

There is litterally nothing different as far as the game engine. Every tree, flag, etc are all the same.
How many new tracks?
How many new cars?

Dialing up reflections and a 4k shine on an Xbox one x that is 4x more powerful is not a huge feat when the game engine being used is at least 6 years old.
That is the benefit of a cookie cutter franchise.., easy to dial up.
I just feel bad for xboxone players that are going to buy the same game again with minor tweaks

KingKionic 2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

The track detail is vastly better in Forza 7 because look at the dubai track at E3 that is higher quality video.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

The content of Forza 7 is 700 cars 30 locations and "200 variations" of these tracks in the game.

https://www.forzamotorsport...

"Dialing up reflections and a 4k shine on an Xbox one x that is 4x more powerful is not a huge feat when the game engine being used is at least 6 years old.
That is the benefit of a cookie cutter franchise.., easy to dial up. "

This is complete NONSENSE. Did you even listen to what digital foudnry said in the video i posted.

I get people may not even be playing Forza 7 but knock it off already.

UCForce2498d ago

@KionicWarlord222 "Let stop the nonsense here" Uhh, ok ? But you said that first. So who making nonsense ? You or them ?

Chris122498d ago

@rude-ro

Complaining about flags and tree's being the same on a real world track. Perhaps the devs should use more of both, and perhaps some dancing girls on the start/finish line just to jazz it up a bit.
And don't go down the road that the look the same, how are you supposed to judge 4k res and 4k textures from a compressed Youtube video. Lve that XOX is triggering so much downplay.

Rude-ro2498d ago

@Chris12
The only downplay is the game.
Will it "look" better than any other forza? Yes...
But the point you are missing, when the game is releasing every other year and reusing the exact same assets over and over...
They are making the same game look better. No different than a remaster.
Great for the fans... but acting like it is a huge feat of gaming engineering then I believe that is the mistake you are making.

The defense force is as strong as your "triggering" statement.
Who is getting triggered? The only fans getting the short end of the stick are the ones playing on Xbox one. It is an exclusive.

Chris122498d ago

Ahh, so all the other Forza's have used 4k textures. And real time lighting. And volumetric effects. And truck racing. And dynamic weather. And other tweaks plus headroom to continue improving a game months before release.

But yeah, exactly the same.

butchertroll2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

@Kionicwarlord222

Oh, 4k assets in Forza 7. Right?

Em....no.
-Ambient occlusion is missing for most of the geometry.
-Lighting is only right on photogrammetry assets.
-Fhotogrammetry assets have really low resolution textures.
-Most of reflections are not real time calculated.
-Geometry reflections on the cars run at half the framerate.
-Car shadows don't project over track assets.
-Some tracks elements don't render at full resolution.

butchertroll2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

@Chris12

Quote :

Ahh, so all the other Forza's have used 4k textures. And real time lighting. And volumetric effects. And truck racing. And dynamic weather.

.......

Forza 7 DOESN'T HAVE FULLY dynamic weather.

Fro those Xbone fans who trying to praise Forza's 7 dynamic weather :

Dark10x aka John Linneman from Digital Foundry :

"Well, in this race, I wouldn't classify it as dynamic since it is designed to change exactly the same way every time you race that track. I think it works well and, like Project Cars 2, they use puddles that seem to gradually fill in over time."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

So, it's happen every time at same time during race. It's not random and it's not a real-time

And also i don't see a 4k textures here :
-Fhotogrammetry assets have really low resolution textures.
-Some tracks elements don't render at full resolution.

And also it's not a real-time lighting in Forza 7!

UPDATE 17/6/17 2:20pm: we'll need to look at our captures more closely, but transitioning between multiple baked lighting models may be how Turn 10 has achieved this - it's an approach most recently seen in Horizon Zero Dawn.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

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Aenea2498d ago

It's funny how many people seem to not understand how game development works and that games can actually different or at least be implemented differently.

Are you telling me they are doing the EXACT same things as F7 is? Or might it, perhaps, be a different game entirely?

Would it be conceivable that it's so different that the One X is not powerful enough for this game engine to reach native 2160p at a stable 60fps?

Forza 6 was 1080p@60fps, PCars1 was 900p@40-50fps, how on earth do you expect that to reach 2160p@60fps? magic?

Babadook72498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

4k native without any antialiasing is worse than 1800p with 8x antialiasing. Forza 7 has a lot more shimmer than GT Sport. It all depends on the design goals of the dev.

KingKionic 2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

Forza 7 was confirmed already by Digital Foundry running with higher AA then 4x.

"Its definitely hardware to call but its definitely running higher then 4X"

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[4K] Forza Motorsport 7 Xbox One X - 9 Minutes of Gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

There is nothing GT SPORT is doing in there engine that is better then Forza 7.The game doesn't even have dynamic weather or day and time change.

Its not even a competition.

Babadook72498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

Thanks for the response. That quote from DF is talking about "texture filtering". Not antialiasing. I noticed a fair amount of shimmer on my 4k but that's my own evaluation. DF (Dark10x) has also confirmed the weather change is prescripted. Not dynamic like in DriveClub. I'm not trying to pick on Forza itself by the way. It looks great. Just saying 4k native isn't this holy grail where it's always the better option. 1800p in some cases looks better.

KingKionic 2498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

What matters is what was written in there article and what was in video of there weather system

"During our Turn 10 visit, we could see how the developers could tweak lighting and weather on the fly during runtime, as easily as a movie colourist grades footage. The Nurburgring is the host circuit for demonstrating both technologies in the E3 demo, where a grey, overcast day turns into a fierce thunderstorm, before subsiding into a clear skies sunset, the track illuminated by floodlights. Everything we'd want from dynamic weather is here in terms of effects, but also with water accumulation and some beautiful reflections in the puddles - check out the end of the gameplay footage to see this in full effect." - Digital Foundry Richard Leadbetter

https://youtu.be/A7-9Izyuax...

Clouds shifting in the sky and its raining.

Starts to die down and clouds starts spreading and then sunlight appears.

Thats as dynamic as it gets.

Babadook72498d ago

"Thats as dynamic as it gets."

No its not rally. In driveclub the weather is actually different every time as there is a weather simulation going on above your head. Forza 7 is the same every time.

"Well, in this race, [regarding Forza 7 weather] I wouldn't classify it as dynamic since it is designed to change exactly the same way every time you race that track." - Dark10x

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

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DarXyde2498d ago

They're probably demanding in different ways. Just because Drive Club is 30fps doesn't mean Gran Turismo must be.

andrewsquall2498d ago

Missing something? Why are you using Forza of all things as the end all graphics benchmark like it really means something?
Would you be as equally impressed and blown away if another low demanding game like Recore ran at 4K/30fps too? It was ALWAYS a given that a main series Forza game could easily hit 4K/60fps if Xbone can easily do it at 1080/60fps.

Have you not seen the Driveclub comparison video that still made everybody admit Driveclub looked so much more stunning and its a 2014 game running on standard PS4 too (boost mode on PS4 Pro essentially doing nothing for it).

Its questionable unoptimised game engines like Frostbite, that never ran well on the current gen consoles, that we need to know more info on and we already know it isn't doing native 4K in the Anthem gameplay shown at E3.

badz1492498d ago

@Angainor7

"Am i missing something here or third parties don't even bother to optimize for 1X?"

You mean that console that has sold 0 unit so far?

McGlinchey122498d ago

You would never be saying that back when 3rd parties didnt bother with the pro you would of said pro is shit..

Liqu1d2498d ago

Project CARS is more demanding than Forza.

ABizzel12498d ago

Forza is being developed by a team that has complete access to XBO hardware tools, and have nothing to focus on but that one console.

This is being developed for 3 platforms with multiple versions of hardware, without full access to the consoles tools, and using a completely different engine.

Forzas engine is optimized for Xbox. Their engine is designed to run on PC and scale from there.

2pacalypsenow2498d ago

1st party games usually perform better

yomfweeee2498d ago

Third parties never optimize as well as first party in general. Not something knew. That's why the significant power gap between PS4 and X1 didn't really matter and now the gap between X1X and PS4Pro really don't matter. It will be marginal differences for third party games.

segamaniaco2498d ago

Forza has 360 graphics, so not too difficult to achieve 4k/60

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Nachoman302497d ago (Edited 2497d ago )

The truth is that 6 teraflops isn't enough power to render modern graphical effects at 4K@60. Forza has always and continues to rely on fantastic art direction and pre baked effects to achieve superior frames rates and resolution. Don't believe me? Screen space reflection in the latest E3 demo does not take in account light sources such as the stadium lights and brake lights.

Say what you will about Project cars, it's pushing more effects and detail through it's pipeline.

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KingKionic 2498d ago

Project cars 2 has to at least run 4K or 60 FPS locked.

There`s really not much excuses that the project cars dev can use like last time with Forza 6 versus Project cars 1.

Forza 7 runs 4K 60 FPS and is the best looking racer this year. Blows the competition away.

Imp0ssibl32498d ago

I'm not 100% sure but Project CARS 2 might have more cars on the track at the same time than any other racing game.

KingKionic 2498d ago

It can have up to 50 cars on the track but that destroys the point of it if the game can not run at a locked 60 FPS.

Even weather too for project cars.

Just look at Project cars 1 on Xbox One :

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Even in the weather Project cars 2 must improve and run at a locked 60 fps on Xbox One X.

bluefox7552498d ago (Edited 2498d ago )

@Kionic Unless a game is designed specifically around a console, you'll have to make concessions sometimes. Why should the game be made worse just so console gamers can get a better frame rate? It's not the developer's fault that consoles have a near-obsolete CPU.

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Aenea2498d ago

Face it dude, your precious beast isn't capable enough...

It should've been 8Tf and have a much better CPU for this to be actually easier...

KingKionic 2498d ago

What was that suppose to be...a jab from Mark Cerny?

Project cars 2 definitely will have advantages on Xbox One X .But if project cars isnt 4K/60 FPS then Turn10 will deliver it.

Theres no lose lose here for Xbox One X. Taking shots when it has a native 4K 60 FPS racer in all racing conditions with day and time change is nothing to try to brush off.

We already seen Forza 7 its literally the best looking racing game on consoles period.

bluefox7552498d ago

I feel like in 3 years from now, they'll still be bringing up Forza as their gold standard, whilst complaining that other devs "should have done better".

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Dragonscale2498d ago

PC2 sounds like is more demanding than Forza. It certainly looks that way in the videos. Sorry but PC2 blows Forza away.

KingKionic 2498d ago

Project CARS 2 - Official E3 Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Forza Motorsport 7 - E3 2017 - 4K Announce Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Whatever there doing in the game it definitely isn't looking better on consoles as it stands then Forza 7.

Liqu1d2498d ago

It is. Even the original was pushing console hardware.

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Dragonscale2498d ago

PC2 is a PC sim racer at heart. Forza is more of an arcade style racer. No contest.

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Bigpappy2498d ago

LOL. The fact remains that Forza 7 is 4K60 on X1X. Forza6 ran 1K60, and was Superior to Project cars. No reason to think this will be any different.

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stuna12498d ago

Seeing things for what they really are; there'll be a lot more misquote going on for the rest of this generation!/s

The sad thing is the more gullible ones will take those misquotes as gospel regardless of verifiable and supported facts staring them in the face.

freshslicepizza2498d ago

Gullible or not we shall see exactly the real differences between all the consoles when the games actually ship. We will also see who takes the time to make the most use of the hardware and who doen't. The fact is there is a ton of selection out there.

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DigitalRaptor2493d ago (Edited 2493d ago )

Damn... look at that damage control from this guy above me.

MS promised "true 4K", called it "uncompromised", the best frame rate and best resolution, led people to believe through their messaging that it would be native 4K and not checkerboard - and the fanboys laughed at checkerboard rendering for months, mocked Sony for advertising their 4K as "dynamic", called it dishonest, and yet MS are stealthily (now that the reveal is out of the way) classing "true 4K" as a mix of native and checkerboard among other things. The hardcore MS fans on here insisted that it would be a native 4K console vs. PS4 Pro's checkerboard rendering, and now both are using the same technique and most are sweeping that under the carpet.

Take this guy for example, going around on PSVR articles and Scorpio articles talking about how it would enable Xbox to have better VR, downplaying the current PSVR quality etc. Going around doing what he does and accusing Sony of implementing a parity clause preventing Bungie from making the game 60fps on Scorpio.

Of course these sheer embarrassments are gonna deflect what they said.

Software_Lover2498d ago

Doesn't mean that it will not look better than Forza 7. Resolution is just one piece of a large puzzle. I do wish that they can get the game to 60fps

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Best Racing Games of All Time, Ranked

Ben writes: "Racing games have come a long way since their inception, so whittling down the best-ever racing games is tough. Here, we rank the top 10."

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darthv721667d ago

Motorstorm, Wipeout, Forza, GT, Mario Kart... all of them are near and dear to me. I'd add some Sega Arcade ones as honorable mentions. Outrun, Super GT and of course DAYTONAAAAAAAAAAAA

isarai1667d ago (Edited 1667d ago )

ROlling STAAAAAAAAAART!

Lack of daytona makes this list fail.

Gaming1011667d ago (Edited 1667d ago )

Honestly, a hidden gem just released - Wreckfest!
It's the most fun you can have with your pants on!
I can't sing this masterpiece's praises enough. I've had more fun with it than any other racing game I can remember, and I've played them all.
We need to support smaller developers like this. The game has been in alpha stages for years so it's unbelievably polished, and it gets regular patches. I still haven't encountered any serious glitches.

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xRacer74x1667d ago (Edited 1667d ago )

My Personal list in order
1.Burnout Revenge(Xbox360)
2. Forza Horizon 4(X1)
3. Forza Horizon 3(X1)
4. Need for Speed hot Pursuit2 (PS2)
5. CruisnWorld(N64)
6. Project Gotham Racing 3(Xbox360)
7. RalliSport Challenge 2(Xbox360)
8. Crusin USA(N64)
9. Rage Racer(PSX)
10. Dirt 2(Xbox360)
Special shout out to Need for Speed the Run, I still play that now and then love the cannonball style of racing but it had faults like real time button mashing in the story outside of the car and it was way too short.

I enjoyed the early Gran Turismo games but I decided to leave off Sim racing from my list since I have been really turned off when you buy a game and know every corner of a track before your first race.
Also left out racing with weapons games. I did love Blur.

Gaming4Life19811667d ago

Need for speed underground was my favorite need for speed, the one that was a launch title on 360. I loved the game and the gameplay, soundtrack, customization were all great but nice list. I never got the hype for the burnout series but I know alot of people love it.

wiz71911667d ago

That was the peak of Need For Speed im my opinion

darthv721667d ago (Edited 1667d ago )

I find it funny that NFS HP2 on the PS2 is better than the xbox version. That is a rarity for an inferior system to have the superior version. Good choice though, its fun AF.

I'd pick PGR4 over 3 though because of bikes. But that's me.

xRacer74x1667d ago (Edited 1667d ago )

Diff team made the xbox version. Yea it was bad in comparison. I went with 3 cause I played it more than 4 though if I remember correctly 4 was like a remastered version of 3 with more stuff.

poleerollee1667d ago

no Daytona? no Sega Rally? no crazy Taxi?

Gaming4Life19811667d ago

Completely forgot about Daytona USA, I used to play that all the time.

2pacalypsenow1667d ago

How is GT3 not in that list lol

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sampsonon1667d ago (Edited 1667d ago )

bull. shouldn't it be separated into different categories? arcade games shouldn't be compared to sim games.
what a stupid list

GT Sport is the best competitive racer of them all. yet it's not on this stupid list. lol

2pacalypsenow1667d ago

In terms of fun, GT6 is better than sport.

GT6 has more features.

sampsonon1667d ago (Edited 1667d ago )

features? they are totally two different games. one is for couch gaming and the other is a highly competitive online, worldwide racing sim.
like i said they need to make more than one list for racing games.

GT Sport is has the best organized racing and is for the serious racing fan.
everything else can't compare https://youtu.be/erCwEGSw9l...

it's on another level https://youtu.be/erCwEGSw9l...

2pacalypsenow1667d ago

OK but that doesn't translate into being a more fun game..

I tried playing online in sport mode by following the "etiquette". First turn I get slammed and knocked out of the track by the same racer who won the race, where's the fun in that?

Sport is a great Sim, but what made GT great was a combination of both, its still a video game at the end of the day.

IMO GT6 is a better game than Sport, and they even use the same physics engine.

sampsonon1667d ago (Edited 1667d ago )

@2pacalypsenow: sorry to hear that you stopped short on a turn and was penalized for it.
but that's my whole point, it's for serious racing. not people that stop short and then blame the game for their lack of racing knowledge.

a little practice and you can learn to avoid penalties like that.
GT 6 was good for its time but is dated and not as good in the physics and online play.

but, you like what you like and play what you play so.
blaming the game for your short comings is always the excuse used for sim racing games.

oh and racing on a track with other great racers is fun. who ever told you it wasn't?

2pacalypsenow1667d ago

@sampsonon

"it's for serious racing. not people that stop short and then blame the game for their lack of racing knowledge."

So me getting slammed by another person going 60mph on a turn and using me as a wall to slow down is my fault?

sampsonon1666d ago (Edited 1666d ago )

@2pacalypsenow that is your side of the story. I'm sure the other person was like " jesus! doesn't guy know how to take turns? stopping f ing short. i hate noobs."

plus you do know they have a drivers rating right? so if you suck at driving you race with other people that suck at it as well. when you race clean your sportsmanship rating goes up and you are matched with other drivers that have the same rating or around the same rating as you. so i just don't get the shit that is coming out of you right now.

learn something https://youtu.be/sI8Ssiltve...
or
go play need for speed or forza and leave sim racing to people that can race or at least strives to race better.

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Imortus_san1667d ago

That crap racer that cant save without internet or that the physical edition does not as the full release. LMAO.

NapalmSanctuary1667d ago

Gran Turismo peaked with GT3/4.

LA_Zeo1667d ago

Played that game extensively you’d enjoy Forza 7 just as much

sampsonon1667d ago

MS has a full championship league? cause that's what makes GT Sport special.
does F7 have rewind?

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The Best VR Racing Games and Simulators

BY RICK MARSH: Video games are meant to be immersive. They encourage us to act like footballers, spies, assassins, and a wealth of other characters. VR takes this escapism even further, offering a level of realism that offers near-total immersion. As well as providing the opportunity for some of the most entertaining games around, VR also has a host of real-world applications.

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ApocalypseShadow1844d ago

One of the best reasons for VR:simulators.

But you would think something as easy as Need for Speed: No Limits VR could be ported to PSVR, Quest, PC VR,etc. to make it even better without the drift. Nope. It's EA. Those lazy bums. No wonder I boycott them.

Jakens1843d ago

It would be great if we get GTR 3 and the newest Assetto to home consoles and with VR support.