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60 Million PS4 Shipped by Sony by March 31st, 2017; Predicts 78 Million Units by March 2018

Sony announces its financial results, including an update on PS4 shipments.

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FallenAngel19842548d ago

Sony met their damn expectations. Ken Kuturagi would be proud

Bathyj2548d ago

I feel bad for Ken. He did nothing wrong he was just a scape goat when PlayStation public perception wasn't as high. It was still performing well, someone just had to answer for the FUD. But he's the genius that lauded the groundwork for all of this.

Having said that, Mark Cerny made all the right moves this gen and PS4 is all the better for it.

mikeslemonade2548d ago

It's gonna beat the 3DS real soon. Bravo, for kicking that handheld's ass.

nix2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

Ken had outrageous ideas. he wanted to put many things. His design was still better than 360. The games proved it even though it was hard to code for in the beginning. He's still the father of Playstation though.

Having said that, Congrats to Sony.

I still have backlog from December. Starting with FFXV which i have not finished yet. TLG is still unopened. Started playing Nier: Automata. Nioh is yet to be downloaded and i haven't even bought Horizon yet. Thanks PS team for these amazing games one can ask for.

FATAL1TY2548d ago

Playstation is a beast

TLOU2 & GOW4 = fatality

WelkinCole2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

To be honest with you. I am still more impressed with the PS3 than the PS4.

When I got my PS3 it was like nothing I had before. The shiny black polish finish. Online gaming for free, internal HD, media player, HDMI, Blu-ray which looked breathtaking on my new Panansic plasma then with top notch audio and of course RFOM then HS, Warhawk!!, Motorstorm, then U1 hit all within an year and a half.

It was revolutionary. Still the best 600 USD I ever spent on any tech. I so miss crazy uncle Ken.

AmUnRa2548d ago

Yes Ken did wrong by the PS3. He went to far. The blu ray player was to expensieve, the Cell was to expensieve, the hardware was to expensieve.. It was his fault that the PS3 was badly priced. That almost killed the PS3. Luckely Sony kept pushing excl. after excl. That and the name Playstation saved the PS3 in the long run.

2pacalypsenow2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

@WelkinCole

I agree with you, the leap from PS2 to PS3 was massive compared to PS3 to PS4. When Ps4 launched It was just meh to me, compared to the Ps3 launch, at least for me.

kneon2548d ago

@2pacalypsenow

That's going to become more and more of an issue. We're getting diminishing returns on increases in power. Or put another way, it takes a massive leap in power to make a big difference in the visuals.

DarXyde2548d ago

Ken brought that on himself. Let's not forget his lofty claims about 4D, calling it a supercomputer, and showing up without rumble. I respect Ken for making PlayStation a reality, but he really dropped the ball when introducing PS3. It turned out to be a splendid console, but Sony had to work its ass off to undo the bad PR. Sure, not all of it was Ken (Harrison was also a problem), but he definitely did his own brand damage.

It was their third console coming hot off the heels of the super successful PS2. They got a little arrogant in making PS3, but they learned from that and made PS4 an astounding console.

At this point, it's hard not to believe in the third console curse. The difference is Sony learned from it faster and better than anyone before them.

darthv722548d ago

The average looks like 15mil a year. If it stays on track, it will equal if not surpass the top dog PS2 in 10 years time and we are only 4 years into that right now.

indyman77772548d ago

I'm still talking trash to all the nasayers that keep saying it will never touch the PS2 numbers. Sorry Little PS2 buddy Big bro PS4 is coming for you!

NG123452547d ago

Imho, the PS4 is the sequel to PlayStation 2. So many great exclusives that i'm currently overwhelming by it. Especially the Japanese games department, Bloodborne, Nioh, Nier: Automata, Persona 5, Gravity Daze 2, Dragon Quest Heroes (it's actually pretty decent, give it a chance) are so amazing! Especially Nioh for me, one of the best game i've ever played in this gen along with Horizon and The Witcher 3.

rainslacker2547d ago

I agree he caught a lot of the flack for the issues with PS3's launch, but realistically, he made a console which cost a lot more to make than was really practical for a home console. Even at it's high price, it was selling at a loss. Sony came out ahead in some areas, such as Blu-Ray, and along with IBM having lots of patents on technologies that are commonplace in today's computing environments, but they lost a ton of money rather quickly on each unit sold.

The complaints about how hard it was to program for was more a problem for the console wars than the actual devs, and the system itself was fine overall. So, most of the real "issues" with PS3, were all internal with Sony's actual business needs.

2-bit_hustler2544d ago (Edited 2544d ago )

Ken wasn’t a scapegoat, and he didn’t have to “answer” for anything. As former Sony Corp. CEO Nobuyuki Idei said when asked about Ken and the PlayStation business:

"It's his company… that is Mr. Kutaragi's business. He is a very outspoken person, I think." [1]

Ken retired from “his company” on his terms, and it was overdue. As he said in 2004:

"My first dream was to retire when I was 50." [2]

He was 53 when he said that, and by the time he finally got around to retiring he was 56. Public perceptions and media F.U.D narratives were of no consequence. He left because he had planned to 6 years prior; but he stayed as long as he did because he wanted to see the PS3 thru to completion and launch in Europe.

However, just because Ken left doesn’t mean he isn’t still ‘there’. On the day Ken tendered his resignation he was quoted as saying:

"As a matter of course, I have the vision of Playstation 4, 5 and 6, which will merge into the network." [3]

Andrew House openly acknowledged Ken’s vision of PS4. [4]

Mark Cerny cryptically acknowledged The Oracle’s [5] vision of Neo (PS4 Pro). [6]

The only right move that Mark made concerning the PS4’s hardware was to STM-ize [7] it’s GPU so that it could “replicate” the PS3’s SPU Runtime System. [8]

According to entry [0070] of the patent below and IBM, STM-ization will be a viable method for hardware customization until at least the year 2035. [9]

Time will tell who will acknowledge Ken’s vision for the PS5, 6 & 7; but the future will acknowledge the ‘virtual Cells’ inside of them.

I’ve heard it said that genius is often misunderstood. Ken would attest to that, and the Cell/B.E. is a testament to that. [10]

[1] see 14th paragraph http://www.newsweek.com/her...

[2] see last paragraph
http://www.newsweek.com/cre...

[3] see 2nd paragraph http://www.eetimes.com/docu...

[4] play 58:00 – 59:04 https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[5] play 0:54 - 1:05 https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[6] play 4:12 - 4:52 https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[7] see list of inventors as well as entries [0013] & [0015]; also see entry [0070] regarding program code 1103 for ‘(ASIC) or other hardware circuitry’ http://www.google.com/paten...

[8] see 3rd & 4th quotes http://www.gamechup.com/ps4...

[9] see slide 20 for Special Purpose (ASIC)
https://pdfs.semanticschola...

[10] see 2nd Q & A for ‘two types of engineers’ http://techon.nikkeibp.co.j...

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Thatguy-3102548d ago

They'll be at 80 million by March 2018 watch

darthv722548d ago

If the average is 15mil, how are they going to do 20mil by next year? People would have to stop buying other systems and only concentrate on PS4 products.

A super surge of sales could come in the form of a serious price drop for the slim. We are talking the sweet spot of $199.99

Eonjay2548d ago

@Darth

The average is 18 million. Ps4 launch November 2013 meaning its be out for 40 months. 60/40 =1.5 a month. Multiplythat by 12 months in a year and their average is 18 millio n. Also the article makes it clear that they just shipped 20 million last year... so there is also that...

rainslacker2547d ago

Going by trends, they seem to keep passing their expectations by 2-3 million. It wouldn't surprise me it's even bigger come next year given the absolutely stellar upcoming lineup. Sony is going to likely have quite a few GOTY contenders this year and next.

Ceaser98573612548d ago

First the Profile margin and now this.. Good news for Sony everywhere.. Now time for E3 2017... I am so happy that i shifted to console (PS3) and cant think beyond .. Congrats Sony Playstation, Lots of Love... :)

Ron_Danger2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

No....

THIS...

IS...

...just an internet comment section...

😏

Crazyglues2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

Sony is all the way up..... Nothing can stop me -(Fatjoe -song - all the way up) but all jokes aside, this is awesome, Sony is killing it. They are having amazing success and have been doing an amazing job.

At this rate they are going to really have an amazing end of year 2017.. They are on track to banging out the hits, DaysGone - The Last of Us 2 - God Of War 4 - GT Sport... I think they will get to 78 million sold easy.

And what an amazing year for gamers... I'm getting ready to join the 4K party and of course I want my PS4 Pro to compliment the new setup..
Here's to wishing us all an amazing 2017 -- if your not at 4k yet it's amazing and worth it, hope you get there soon..

Chevalier2548d ago

80 million by March 2018. If they release those exclusives 85 million.

starchild2547d ago

Sony have done an excellent job. They have good, solid hardware and an amazing lineup of exclusives. They deserve all of their success in gaming.

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DarkOcelet2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

I expect it to hit 72 million by the end of this year. Well earned for Sony, their library of games right now is unmatched. And the amount of exclusives they have is just insane. Great time to be a PS4 owner.

UCForce2548d ago

You gotta admit that Sony know how to handle themselves nicely.

freshslicepizza2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

The ps4 is a well oiled machine. they did everything right from the very beginning and the sales are well deserved. The tradeoff will hopefully mean the other competitors will be working that much harder and It isn't unreasonable to think the ps4 wont be able to hit the 100 million milestone.

Kaneki-Ken2548d ago

But not the handheld business

Bathyj2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

Jesus moldy what's with you? Is this your new bit now? You start with praise and adoration. You try to lull us in close enough just to slip the knife in the back with some little dig talking out the side of your mouth.

And you don't even offer an argument as to why you think PS4 won't make 100m. You just throw it down like a flaming bag of shit on a door stop, and run away waiting for someone to stomp on it and the smell to rise.

So your idea is because PS4 is selling so well that the others are going to lift their games and PS4 won't sell so well? Do you even realise how far you've gone?

freshslicepizza2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

@Bathyj
"So your idea is because PS4 is selling so well that the others are going to lift their games and PS4 won't sell so well? Do you even realise how far you've gone?"

What are you talking about, I said there is NO reason why the PS4 won't be able to hit 100 million. I expect it to surpass 100 million.

I thought I explained it quite clealy but I guess not.

What I meant was because the PS4 is doing so well that hopefully the others will learn from them. That doesn't mean the PS4 will now slow down.

Bathyj2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

" It isn't unreasonable to think the ps4 wont be able to hit the 100 million milestone"

Key word being WON'T.

Apparently you said the exact opposite of what you intended, that happens so I apologise somewhat for the barrage, but your poor writing and past character must bare the brunt of the lion's share of the blame too I'm sure you'll agree?

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S2Killinit2548d ago

Its their dedication to gaming that earns my praise the most. They have never faltered.

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UltraNova2548d ago

It just got harder for the competition to get some exclusive support...60 mil and counting....damn they are surely going after the 75 mil mark by year's end...

This is insane...

PhoenixUp2548d ago

Sony expects PS4 to ship 78 million by the end of March 2018, which means it'll still be behind Wii which had shipped 86 million in the same four year and three month timeframe.

It's most likely going to take five years or even longer until PS4 starts outpacing Wii.

UKmilitia2548d ago

but lets be honest here,wii was a product pushed at getting people up and off there backsides,kids and group games at home.
ps4 isnt aimed at that so its doing better imo as its demograph isnt as big

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory2548d ago

so you're telling me casuals aren't buying PS4?

mkis0072548d ago

otaku

grandmas arent buying ps4's...

OtakuDJK1NG-Rory2548d ago

@mkis007
Still a casual.
Grandmas aren't gamers.

So you guys are telling me casuals are gamers because they aren't old people? stupidest thing I ever heard.

Liqu1d2548d ago

@Otaku "Grandmas aren't gamers"

Oh really.

http://www.pcgamer.com/shir...

People of all ages are capable of being gamers. She probably plays more games than you.

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Dragonscale2548d ago

The wii berely qualifies as a games console tbh.

blackblades2548d ago

I regret getting it, considering I didn't play it after the 1st month. Ill never fall for that again. It might was a success in sales but it was a failure console wise. It went in the history books kinda badly if you watched the gaming history documentary.

DarkHeroZX2548d ago

Otaku

I've seen Wiis in nursing homes.

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DJ_Professor_K2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

Gimmick is a gimmick they played it and they forgot about the Wii U sales is the stinging proof of that
Still Nintendo OG status cannot be faded much respect as one of the originators

Ps.4 keep up the work

Dabigsiebowski2548d ago

Also Wii was always way cheaper than the PS4 as well.

Protagonist2548d ago

The fact that you just compared how close the PS4 sales are to the Wii, shows what a massive succes the PS4 is.

Markusb332548d ago

I hear what your saying but the wii was trash bought by anyone and everyone then caught dust, wii won't have software attach rates like ps4,, wii games were awful we all know it.

Tapani2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

Yeah, but Wii attach rate and customer's amount of money they threw at it was nothing like on the PS4. Gamers love both playing PS4 and continuously buy games for it. The amount of money Sony made, invested and can make are entirely on a different level. They have Sony Financial Services (Sony Wallet, which is a great success among normal Japanese who want a good online global bank, and it is becoming a phenomenon in Asia, EU and US as well now) attached to it, PS Now, PS Vue etc. what not (revenue) streams that come through PS4 purchases. Sony also sells more 4K TVs and other SKUs, like Slim and Pro with the PS4 brand.

Business is much more complicated than simple hardware numbers pushed through to retailers. Apple sells less iPhones than Samsung sells mobiles, but Apple's users invest much more money into their ecosystem, and they get licensing fees etc like Sony.

Simply put, Wii didn't have the magnitude of ecosystem that PS4 has and will have in the future. Therefore, the amount of money made through that ecosystem is not comparable to a more static nature of Wii related sales. Nintendo did make some money with the peripherals, though, but it's different than having monthly subscribers for various services. Also, Wii was a trend (typically trends end fast, like Pokemon Go) and Playstation is and has been a continuous brand making money for decades.

objdadon2548d ago

The wii appealed to even grandparents lol. This is a real gaming console doing these numbers. This gen probably won't last long enough to surpass the wii.

stuna12548d ago

The good thing is Sony is good for supporting their previous consoles well into the next gen. Either way technically PS4 is Sony's fastest selling console ever, in that regard alone it has surpassed the PS2's status! Which means it's the fastest selling console ever.

That is a title I don't see any company beating anytime soon if ever!

Lime1232548d ago

True, but in the end PS4 will outsell Wii's 101.63 LTD. Also PS4 will make a lot more money thanks to more games sold and PS+

KwietStorm_BLM2548d ago

Really? Who gives a damn about the Wii? The thing is, with PS4, it will continue to sell. It won't jump off a cliff when the casuals attention span hits their ceiling. PS4 isn't selling to grandma and little Jimmy. People who play games other than party junk and gimmicks are buying it. Can't believe someone brought up the Wii.

welly3002548d ago

Lol, Wii, your funny should try stand up.

Thatguy-3102548d ago

The beauty that you're failing to see is that the ps4 will have strong legs after that. It's tracking with the ps2 which just further proves the console will pass the 100 million mark.

Mr Marvel2548d ago

Yes, but you're comparing a quality console in the PS4 against the cheap piece of crap Wii.

The Wii doesn't count imo. Easily the worst console I've ever owned.

Dark_Knightmare22548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

Bro who cares about if it's matching the biggest anomaly and casual,shovelware shit of a console ever. That console would never had reached those numbers without grandparents,moms,dads etc buying it just for it to sit there and be useless in a year so nice try better luck next time

SirBradders2548d ago

The wii was half the price and mine collected dust after the FAD finished.

_-EDMIX-_2548d ago

Except the people who are buying PlayStation 4 are actually established long-term Gamers, they're not temporary casuals.

This is consistent to what PlayStations normally actually sell , I mean you would have to consider the lowest selling PlayStation is in the ballpark of 90 million.

So it's Nintendo's fluke that had old people and random people purchasing it simply for the cultural Fad in the novel tea versus the consistency of the PlayStation which is actually always sold around this amount consistently since its debut in the nineties

So it's Nintendo's first 100 million sold for a console vs PlayStations 3rd system to possibly hit 100 million....

Considering the Wii U sold 14 million I want it really put too much stock in the 100 million that the wi sold simply because most of those people or not Gamers clearly that's showing now.

When you look at how PlayStation 4 selling now, and you actually look at what the Wii sold last generation , it would actually be better to sell 90 million last generation 28 loyal consistent healthy install base of real purchasers and sell it again this generation, then sell 100 million of casuals and then sell 14 million and then be forced to release a handheld rushed.

I mean when you look at the difference between the PlayStation 3 and the Wii it's in the ballpark of about 10 million units.

Except the people who purchase PlayStation 3 were actual Gamers that returned evident by the PlayStation 4 sales.

Vs

Grandma. 😂😂😂 28514;😂😂

So when this becomes the fourth PlayStation console to surpass 90 million I think they're going to probably have to really sit down and evaluate bragging about tricking old people and soccer moms into purchasing a system once. Lol

The wiis sales were a fluke, PlayStation console sales are legitimate sales by legitimate Gamers as to why they consistently sell every generation.

Vs the Wii U becoming one of the lowest selling game consoles in history.......

Fad vs the real thing.

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butchertroll2548d ago

But Wii sales stumbled like a rock a few years after and just stopped.

zypher2548d ago

Even if it doesn't, Sony will still have 3 of the top 5 highest selling game consoles in history, which is nothing to scoff at.

PhoenixUp2548d ago

People no shit what audience Wii is targeted towards. I have no doubt PS4 will eventually outsell it. I'm making a factual observation that it won't happen until 5-6 years into its lifespan.

Another observation to make is PS4 vs PS2 sales. PS4 started strong out the gate, but now its sales are on par with what PS2 was in the same timeframe. This demonstrates PS4's sales, although extremely great, dropped relatively significant over its third year vs PS2's third year. This just implies that PS4 may end up selling below or just on par with PS2 at the end of its lifecycle.

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proudly_X2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

Why do people go crazy about the numbers? Do they have shares in Sony??? :p

Well, if you a shareholder there, tell Sony I need Syphone Filters and Eight Days.. ;)

showtimefolks2548d ago

More sales mean more money for developers and more software support

Bluepoint Studio are remaking a Playstation classic from what the rumors suggest so I guess keep an eye on E3

Ron_Danger2548d ago

The only downside I see to Sony continuing to sell more is that we'll have to scroll past more articles about why 3rd party exclusives need to die written by upset "journalists".

krypt19832548d ago (Edited 2547d ago )

You know sony only makes about 11 bucks per console sold right? Regardless this is great for sony but they need to dumb sony pictures and music or there will come a time PlayStation will be in trouble because of it

Bathyj2548d ago

because it's nice to see competence rewarded even if it doesn't directly benefit us.

It indirectly benefits us though, with all the support Sony throughs behind PS4. That's games in our consoles.

GamingCentaur2548d ago

Some people are glad a product they like is selling well.
If you're not then don't click on the story.

Jeff2572548d ago

Because when Sony does well it can mean more exclusive titles like Spider-Man. Companies look at how well they are doing and see how well there games are received and naturally want to be a part of that. It can also at times push the competition to reach higher which is good for gaming as it gives gamers more quality choices.

Protagonist2548d ago

Did you ask the same question when nintendo revealed their numbers.

EpacZinga2548d ago

I don't care about sales so let's go in a sales article.

Do people like you even see how stupid you look?

BIGBOSS082548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

Why do people go crazy when their favourite team wins? What do they get out of it? They get absolutely nothing yet they jump up and down like mad people who have become millionaires. It's just the way humans are. We like to pick a side and when that side does well, it makes the people who support it proud and happy. This happens in every aspect of life. It's just the way we are and im sure you have quite a few examples of this in your own life.

ILostMyMind2548d ago

The most consistent answer i've ever seen on this site. Congratulations!

starchild2547d ago

I'm not that way. I can recognize that Sony deserve to be where they are and I can objectively see that it can make it more likely that I will get more good games for my PS4, but I'm not deeply emotionally invested. I don't have my ego entwined with one of these corporations and I don't cheer one side and wish for the failure of the others.

I also think sports fanatics are ridiculous. That sort of behavior is irrational. It's based in a sort of primitive tribalism. What do you have to be proud about if one sports team (or game company) does well? That's their success not yours.

welly3002548d ago

Sales detemin support from developers. So folk are interested in sales/profits.

Thatguy-3102548d ago

More sales equal more software for the box. Will make it easier for Sony to get backing from bug third party studios. Maybe leading them to secure titles for the title. Ladies and gentlemen we're going back to the ps2 era. Rise of the quality Japanese games and domination of Sony is bringing back good memories.

badz1492548d ago

"bug third party studios"?? You mean Bethesda? Or Bioware? Hehehe

Thatguy-3102548d ago

Oh just look at xbox and see why sales are important. Not one new IP that they launched this gen has been successful. On top of that look at how the third party exclusives titles that they launched failed as well.

Dark_Knightmare22548d ago

Who cares if they are happy about Sony doing well why does it bother you and don't say it doesn't because it obviously does since you clicked on an article specifically about sales just to complain about people being happy

Chocoburger2548d ago

I actually am a Sony stockholder, and the stock has increased greatly since October 2013 when I bought it. So yes, I care. :)

_-EDMIX-_2548d ago

I mean logically haven't you figured out Sony being more successful means you possibly could get a siphon filter reboot or eight days?

I mean you should probably be congratulating the company that was even taking such huge risk on new intellectual properties in the first place.

proudly_X2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

All those disagrees for me...?? Wow!!! This is intimidation and oppression.. An attempt to make me lose my mind but thats not going to happen... Sony FTW!!! Lols

trooper_2548d ago

You're terrible at concern trolling.

ILostMyMind2548d ago

There is no reason to go crazy about disagrees. It just shows that several people did not agree with the reasoning you demonstrated in that statement. This happens all the time, it's normal. Except with Ceptic and MoldyBread. They get disagrees simply because they're known to be Sony haters, even if they say something positive.

rainslacker2547d ago

Poor little oppressed fan boy. Don't ask silly questions, and you won't get answers. Don't ask a loaded question while casting judgement on others, and you won't get disagrees.

Methinks you bring the intimidation and oppression upon yourself. If you feel the way you do, state it loud and proud, and don't worry what other people try to do to you.

Of course, we all know you were just trolling, but still.

trooper_2548d ago

Its about getting more support for new games. If the console doesn't sell, then no games will be made.

XanderZane2548d ago

Well if the console sells like the Wii U, sure there won't be a lot of 3rd party games made. These current game consoles still have another 4-5 years on the market. There will be a lot of games being made.

King_Lothric2548d ago

You wouldn't be saying that if it was Xbox.

kayoss2548d ago (Edited 2548d ago )

I just dont understand this logic. If you're an owner of a product which is an investment, you should care about the numbers. Why? the number indicates the support of the product long term. If a system is doing badly, support for that system will dwindle. You look at what happened so far, call of duty, Bungie, etc... They are gave exclusives to PS4 because it has the largest ownership. More people with PS4's means more potential software sales. You compare the software sales between the Ps4 and the Xbox one, its almost 2 to 1. So yes, if youre an owner of a product (which is an investment) you better care about the sale numbers.

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