Microsoft is always just one E3 away from greatness...

@moldy

Whats your definition of new games? do unannounced games also fall into new games? do sequels to games we have already played count a new games even if they haven't officially ben announced.

MS is playign the only hand they have with Scorpio, trying to be THE PLACE to play 3RD PARTY MULTI PLATFORM GAMES.
Not 1st. Not Second, but 3rd party.

Nintendo focuses solely on the 1st party exclusives
Sony focuses on 1st and 3rd part exlcuiives with great 3rd part multi support
Ms is fopcusing on 4rd party.

and i dont blame them, when all they see if sales skyrocket for Halo, Forza and Gears, but not risks like Recore, Sunset and others that didn't sell as well as they had hope, didn't push consoles they way they hoped,. they are going to be focuing again just on the 3rd party support.

Congrats MS you turned the Xbox and Scorpio into a PC for the living room....

time to go play good exclusives on other consoles.

27 million is fake news. They don't discuss sales anymore just bullets fired.

Hilarious that you tell someone to not act like a potential customer when you pretend to be a Sony customer all the time for your trolling.

@moldybread

"chrisx, after E3 then you can talk. "

What about now? Doesn't do any good for people that own one or would buy one now.

Where will all these new games come from? Microsoft can't create studios out of thin air. They have very little 1st party studios. Unless you think they will drop halo and gears and get their 2 major studios to make new ip? Or will they get 3rd party exclusives? Which would be suicide for the developer as the scorpio will have a very small userbase. I really am looking forward to their e3. This one will be make or break for them.

@chrisx

well they did pump out a few games since those 2 e3 you mention.
Qunatum break, gears4, recore, halo5, rare collection, 2 Forza games, and a gears1 remaster since the 2015 e3.
Theyre still supporting Killer Instinct since launch as well.
What playstation game is still supported like that?
They had also released Ori and the Blind forest around march before the 2015 e3 and the definitive edition a year later with more content.

@thekhurg
That is not the defintiion of fake news...fake news is making something "as news" when it isnt.
The 27million is an estimate. It isnt fake news. Fake news would be..."MS is doing BC does this mean they wont do current gen games???"...thats fake news.

@chrisx

i want scorpio and games...you talk as if people cant chew gum and walk at the same time...

@game4funz

"well they did pump out a few games since those 2 e3 you mention.
Qunatum break, gears4, recore, halo5, rare collection, 2 Forza games, and a gears1 remaster since the 2015 e3."

You made his point exactly.

I agree with both of you.

I think MS knows they need games, and they'll have them in full display at E3, the problem is it's a bit too late this generation and there's not a lot they can offer from a first party perspective to combat the wave of PS4 exclusives.

MS E3 will be:

1. Big AAA 1st / 3rd party game (10 minutes)
2. Reveal of Scorpio ("true 4K gaming" will constantly be used, specs reveal, price, etc...) (10 minutes)
3. A collection of 1st and 3rd party games running on Scorpio (30 minutes)
4. Indies and Games Montage (10 minutes)
5. Xbox partnerships, new services, etc... (10 minutes)
6. A few 3rd party "Console Exclusives" from PC (10 minutes)
7. Fallout VR, Minecraft VR, and other Oculus VR games (10 minutes)
8. Final big reveal, the Coalition new IP (Black Tusk old game) / Cyberpunk 2077 (5 minutes)

This has to be their E3, and while it's impressive overall, I don't think it's going to be enough to really help XBO against the PS4. That battle can only be remedied with a price drop to keep XBO sales strong and competitive. That being said it's definitely what the XBO needs a big focus on games.

From a 1st / 2nd party perspective they have: Forza 7, Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, Halo (6), Phantom Dust, State of Decay 2, and Gears DLC. Those games are good for current Xbox fans, but none of them are bringing in new gamers, and neither will Multiplat games.

What's going to help XBO will be the PC exclusives they can nag to be console exclusives on their platform and to a lesser extent VR with Oculus (VR is going to have a VERY slow adaptation on Xbox, because now they have to buy what is likely a new $500 console and a new $600 VR headset).

But bringing PC exclusives over to the console will give it more diversity that it desperately needs to separate itself from the PS4, and to build a better niche for itself this generation, until they can actually build their teams up enough to where they can go on a 2 game per team development cycle like Sony has done. The problem is we likely won't reap those benefits until the 4th Xbox launches considering it takes at least 2 - 3 years to create a new IP and by then we'll be in 2019 / 2020.

You guys said after last E3 and nothing happened.

Abizzel1 gets it right, most of the rest of you don't care what Microsoft does at E3 and it will be obvious within the topics. The PC has such a diverse library so if they can bring a lot of that to consoles it will boost it's image.

Some will now say why don't I just build a comparable Windows PC. Great! But we all know those who say they are and those that do are polarizing and contradictory​. Sony sure hopes you don't, that's why they came out with the Pro. They know they cannot survive on just exclusives. This is why Nintendo constantly tries something different with the hardware to differentiate themselves because they don't have third party support like Microsoft and Sony do.

Scorpio will fill that area as well for the mainstream who don't want to get into PC gaming but want a more powerful console. When a game like Fallout 4 can sell over 7 million copies on the PS4 that tells me a lot. It tells me there is a significant market still for console gaming which the Scorpio will also fulfill. So no, the PC argument to counter why do I need Scorpio is just vaporware from those who are always looking for bullet points why nobody should support Xbox.

27 million unit sales and hardly any of them are buying their exclusive games. They have all were mediocore or below in terms of sales and without sales on their ip, less investment is made on new ips

What? we need to wait for the 10' exclusive content at E3?
Maybe next E3, you know. Maybe

Unless MS are writing cheques I don't see why there will be a wave of content coming from PC to Scorpio. Those publishers would be better off porting it to release on PS4/Pro in addition to Xbox. Especially since Scorpio has ZERO units sold.

MS brand has been damaged badly if it wasn't already messed up.

XB360 lost TONS of consumer trust in this company to make hardware, XONE rolls around and theses guys have some Pinky and The Brain plan to try to kill the used market.

Sooooooooooo yea.

Even if you like MS, you have to admit they can't really be a primary system because of those shady qualities. All companies have something they do messed up and clearly MS has that whole questionable trust issue. I don't care how much you like Gears or Halo or Forza, man...XB gamers where UP IN ARMS to let MS know that was not ok to try to remove used games for their scheme. It was just sad, embarrissing and didn't even serve a real use.

They never even explained WHY it had to be that way , they never really answered why not do both.

They wanted to take over the market......thats it.

We have many options that exist RIGHT NOW ,I see no benefit to the user to REMOVE a option. NO POSITIVE came from that remove bud, not for the consumer anyway.

Consider....if they want a digital system, sure......have those SKU's with the Bluray Disk that just install and need DRM LABELED...DRM, INSTALL ONLY.

THEN have a SKU that can be used like normal.

Why couldn't they do that? LMFAO! Did you guys really think they couldn't? Magic maybe? LOL! They didn't even leave it in as an OPTION! It goes to show you, they ONLY wanted it to take over the market, NOTHING MORE. In fact, I feel they got rid of it even as an option as it would show that consumers could have BOTH. It would mean they could NEVER come back and say "Well XONE you could either install the disk and take it out or install the disk and leave it in as its DRM, but now...........you can only install only 1 time and the disk is garbage, because of advancement in technology, less options is better for you.....yea"

They tried something so dark, I think even its MOST hardcore fans could not overlook. Trust me bud, if Sony or Nintendo did some crap like that, I'm putting them in their place. We are making Facebook groups, making petitions, posting like crazy etc lol That is what MS fans did too, they got that crap reversed as they are not sheep bud. They might like MS, but they like GAMING FIRST!

How long does it take for Sony fanboys to realize the only reason Sony needs to pump out games is because Sony games are only good for one play through. The reason MS can use hrs played or players logged into their services instead of consoles sold is because of their continued support of Live, a player base that keeps coming back for more and more. Examine multiplayer content and you'll see why Xbox hasn't gone the way of Wii U.

You can also play as many 3rd party games as you want. And with Scorpio it will be the best place to play all 3rd party games. We'll see article after article of increased resolution and faster frame rates. If MS continues to push for new IPs and stay committed to the platform it will just grow, so no need to worry about it.

@moldybread its always "wait until E3" with xbox fans and Microsoft right? Keep waiting then

@game4funz

2 new IP releases (QB, Recore)
4 existing IP releases ( Halo 5, Gears 4, 2 Forzas, Rare collection, Gears 1 again)

2 brand new IPs in almost 2 years? That sure says a lot

how can scorpio do anything? they still need the games

So your advise would be "Wait for E3"

But wait, you didnt say what year. Ive been waiting for E3 with Xbox since Kinect 1 was announced. Thats about the time the platform I loved turned to $h*t.

Anyway, Ha "Wait for E3". Id love for Phil to come out with a shirt with that written on it.

@moldybread

"estimated 27 million"

Yes estimated not actual fact. You could argue its lower than that as MS have stopped reporting the actual sold to customers numbers.

chrisx wym pump out games? The games that have been announced last e3 for xbox one and ps4 - xbox one's percentage of games released that were announced since e3 was higher lol. Also where were all these guys talking about "xbox no exclusives" back in 2015 when even sony admitted their 1st party line up was sparse? Everyone here suddenly forgot about that, so quick to attack xbox but when sony does it - "oh its ok i guess"

@chrisx

Ha so Scalebound had your interest? What exactly did that game have your interest for? Was it the cunt mouthed dev who based M$ aka the money for his shit project? Was it the extremely ordinary bullshit dragon game? Or was it the completely unnecessary faggotry of the game in general that really had you interested? That's why your opinion doesn't matter to any company, because unlike the rooms full of number crunching nerds who have years of experience you still think you know better than the companies that employ those people and decided to cancel the project.

Who the hell asked for 4k gaming? It's not even that common on the PC platform yet never mind the consoles. None of my friends on PC have 4k displays to run 4k games well. I certainly don't.

I feel the console manufacturers have skipped a step. How about they develop a console that can do 1080p/60 fps consistently before they even try to move to 4k?

4k gaming will not be mainstream for another few years but Sony and MS seem to want to push that agenda. I bet most console gamers don't even have 4k tvs so what's the point?

" that the fact that you used a competitors game to prove that MS "could turn things around if they wanted to" and couldnt find a single similar xbox/MS example is pathetic and testament to the bleak state of affairs at camp Xbox. "

"Even more pathetic is the fact that people were foolish enough to get on board with what you said. Oh well...c'est la vie."

Clearly you suffer from a lack of reading comprehension skills.

He just cited an example of a platform maker that is perceived to be doing even worse than the Xbox having the chance to turn things around. You saying that Xbox hasn't got an actual example of itself turning things around as some sort of weakness in his argument is idiotic. It doesn't need to have that but arguably you could say the 360 did that after the original Xbox's short lifespan?

So yeah learn to read and understand the point. Or not....and continue to get schooled 24/7

THE BEAST!

"and released Breath OF The Wild and is the highest rated Zelda game ever"

No it's not.

Lol my brother says 'THE BEAST'

I say 'with no TEETH '

@AngelicIceDiamond:

What system has come back from "the point of no return"? The PSP, the Atari Lynx, the Deamcast? It could be said that the PS3 did, but only because MS and the fan base were so busy cheering for the 360 they ignored the general, worldwide market for the PC/FPS crowd which was mainly in the US. Never built up, if anything tore down, 1st party studios while fostering bad relations or policies with 2nd and indies.

Maybe the point of no return could apply to the Scorpio because for all the hyperbole around it, its still has the XB1's aura around it. And in order to bring back the Xbox brand from PoNR, it needs more than that.

"If MS really wants to get themselves out of this slump they will"

Yea....thats the thing.

If they ever wanted to compete against Sony's large number of teams and exclusives, they would have actually started making those moves last gen.

Horizon Zero Dawn started development in 2011.

Sony bought Guerrilla Games in 2006.

Sony's been planning such a onslaught for a while, they sold more last gen because of those smart buys. MS turned down LBP (so did Nintendo) Sony invested in the IP and team and it went on to sell MILLIONS.

What has MS been doing this whole time?

They can, we know they can.....well......why haven't they?

Again...2011 Horizon Zero Dawn started development, this isn't checkers....this is chess.

Right now, you and most are waiting for MS to do something TODAY that will net them some great IPs IN HOUSE in maybe 5 years. We are still waiting for them to even start ,so if we don't see them buying lots of teams to make AAA titles that can compare to the quality and volume that Sony is bringing, I'd suggest they just are not doing it and just don't want to spend that type of money.

Its not rocket Science how to beat Sony, it just cost money MS doesn't want to spend.

While that's true, the past 6 months hasn't exactly shown MS wanting to get out of their funk. Most of their time is spent on talking about Scorpio, and the only games they're talking about they've been talking about for years. Top that with cancelled games and some studio closures and it calls into question just what MS is doing to actually drive interest in their products?

I hate to say it, but it seems like right now they're just trying to stay in the discussion with what they already have, instead of actually driving excitement by always showing off new things. People criticize Sony for announcing too early, but when you put it into perspective, no matter what you may be interested in, Sony has talked about something that is coming. There's stuff to really be excited for, even if it's not right away. Even if you're not into what they have announced, the feeling that they have something else held back is strong. MS just doesn't have that at all, because it's easy to predict what they have from their first party, which means all that one can be excited for is some unknown 2nd party game that may or may not exist.

@Moldy

" first off you need to grow up and move on. if their current product doesn't interest you that's fine, but to hold onto this baggage shows just how personal you take things"

You should take your own advice. Your always on here saying negative stuff about PS4 and talking up garbage Xbox products like Sony ran over your dog or something. Seriously go reread your comments, you come off as a salty fanboy.

@Chevalier:
Hear-hear.