If it's a handheld that's as powerful as a ps4 then that's a win. But my mind is malfunctioning about how it will look. The controllers are key.....please let them be usable. If no the it may be the wiiu all over again

I'm not even sure a handheld that uses Tegra and cartridges can even begin to approach PS4 levels. I'm not up to date on what cartridges and Tegra can do, but this being like a PS4 or Xbox One sounds far fetched.

For Japan this is a solid move...for the ROW its going to take some convincing. I honestly think they may pull this off if they can properly state how the home console will be used. This is one reason why i hate rumors...we only really get a piece of the puzzle. lets hope when they choose to reveal we will see something solid.

The PSP Go was a portable unit that could dock to a TV and use a sixaxis controller to play. Pretty neat little device too. I didn't let the lack of UMD slow me down from playing various digital PSP games. It's how i play PSP games now.

I honestly thought Sony would be first to market with a dual purpose system.

As suspected, it's another gimmick attempt that will not be as powerful as the current competition and leagues behind the Neo and especially the Scorpio. So bye bye again to proper 3rd party support and it'll be another console that only the hardcore Nintendo fans will support.

The console hardware war is over. This is better than a traditional, wannabe pc gaming machine, console. Able to play say console game anywhere, anytime, and on any place is better than stuck in front of a tv. By doing this, hardware power is no longer an issue.......

Nintend-Ouya

it has always been rumored as a hybrid. i love Nintendo, i am interested in all their hardware.
I will get Breath of the Wild on Wii U, except if NX version has a better gameplay possibilities.

My expectations were extremely low for NX and they still managed to disappoint me. It's time for Nintendo to go third party.

This is what I've been saying for the longest time now that the X in NX actually just means crossover.

In Japanese the X means several things it means stop and it also means to cross over or to cross. I believed that they were likely going to make a hybrid because of several reasons financially they cannot afford to keep making two platforms that are selling lesser than their previous.

With the performance of the Wii U it showed that they just did not have the money to invest billions into a platform that would only move 12 million.

I did that with Nintendo's own remarks stating that their new platform would replace the 3DS and Wii U how could it do both? Also add in that they stated their next platform would have their most support they've ever given a device how could they give the most support if they still have two platforms unless it's actually one?

The rumors about them not having a disk drive and using cartridges only support the idea that the platform is a handheld foremost.

How the term X is recognized in Japan , the rumors we've heard , Nintendo's Current financial situation and even Nintendo's own words themselves have sort of revealed what the NX likely is.

I think it's a good idea that they quietly exit the console Market in the only thing they could give to console Gamers that are still fans of their products is the ability to just play it on the TV screen so that way they can have the best of both worlds, but I honestly believe they are smart to go this route because that their main base is actually handheld.

This is just a PSP 3000 folks.

one of my concerns is what i thought all along, too much investment in what makes it different than the others. much like the wii u hardware costs will be allocated to the screen which means the nx will not be that powerful. that is because nintendo will never price themselves too high. they are a family friendly company and would never sell a game system for $500.

if this thing is true i am out. i don't want to have to pay for something i may not use, portability. just give me a basic game console for pete's sake, is that too much to ask for?

Carts shouldn't matter for what the system can do. They're just a storage medium, and even slow ones are signifcantly faster than optical media, and generally there is less seek time compared to hard drives.

Tegra can be good or bad depending on the actual generation of Tegra and overall specs. They're some of the better mobile chips out there, although I'm not sure which class of Tegra Nintendo will use. Bigger thing will be if it uses a discrete GPU, and being a mobile system, it's hard to imagine it will be able to handle anything close to PS4 or X1....unless it uses some sort of speed step technology where it just uses a low power mode while in it's mobile, undocked form.

Not sure if I'd consider it a hybrid at this point. Having a docking station to connect to a TV does not really make it a hybrid console anymore than one's own current tablet connected to the TV through HDMI makes it a media player like one's Blu-Ray. If the docking station adds power to the system, to give it more power when connected, then I could consider it a hybrid....and I recall some of the earlier patents did hint at this kind of possibility.

Not sure how well the system will go over...but serving two markets with one product can't hurt. If they actually made it into a more usable general purpose tablet, it could be quite compelling just to have the best of both worlds. I was kind of hoping for this with the Android OS rumors since I'm overdue for a new tablet. The rumors in the article though state they will use their own OS....which wouldn't be that appealing to me.

With Nintendo it never comes to the hardware but to the games.
They are maybe the only company that offer quality on a regular basis.
Now since COD and GTA fanboys are 80% gaming on the competition, Nintendo are forced to take risks and be different.
I will never buy a Nintendo console for a 3rd party game, and 80% of people won't do that either no matter if it's superior version or not.
There are key things that will be important to me : the online capabilities and the zoning of the games/apps. Wii U had a terrible online infrastructure, online gaming works but that's it. e-shop is a complete mess and the UI is really outdated. Last but not least is the controller, It should use 4 of its own controllers at least simultaneously unlike the terrible gamepad.
Next is the price.. They should price it no more than 299$.

@mad-dog
Well that Android crap now runs Pokemon Go, mind you
but to be honest I wanted Sony to have a portable PS3 or PS4 so I am very much interested in Nintendo's rumored approach.

Well, it won't be amazing then

@Dark_Knightmare2

Assuming these leaks are real, the K1 is great for mobile use, for all we know the dock that it plugs into in your home could give it a boost. At the very least it's able to run TLOZ Breath of the Wild and the new Sonic game trailer says it'll come out on PS4, Xone, NX & PC so it's hard to say where it lands in terms of power. Way too many ifs, i'll just wait for Nintendo to unveil it.

Yeah.... There is no way they can offer Neo like performance in a mobile form factor.

I read that it wasn't even ps4 level from the leaked specs

@Nitrowolf
If its more powerful than PS4, you can have my house. It will be cheap to make and underpowered like all Nintendo consoles.

Dude, where are u getting your info from? Near neo specs?! It's not even as powerful as the WiiU

Neo specs lol hahaha keep dreaming. Why do you think lately Nintendo has been making even more comments about it not being in a power race. Come on man some of you guys love getting burnt just like the wild speculation before wiiu lol and it being super powerful we know how that turned out. This system will be lucky to reach xbone levels.

There is no way this can be near neo specs and be portable

Exactly what do you intent to use as a power source when it is mobile?

Because anywhere near a modern console requirements are going to drain that battery dry in a very short timeframe maybe a labtop battery, but the device will probably have to be fairly small unless they want a monstrous handheld device.

Battery technology has not really advanced all that much n the last couple of years, if it's primary purpose is handheld gaming, then maybe something similar to a ps vita with more modern hardware.

Console power means nothing if you can't keep it supplied with enough energy to run it for a few hrs on end, funny you talk about it being as powerful as the ps4 or neo ect. And yet you fail to address how you will get rid of all the heat the system will produce at those levels.

The NX handheld, will be nowhere near Neo.

Maybe a Nintendo home console that comes later, but not this rumored handheld.

Handheld devices have extreme limitations when it comes to hardware, due to their size, the heat management, and battery life. Those 3 things limit hardware severely.

Tegra X1 has been a high end mobile chip for over a year now, and Snapdragon and the others are just now catching up in the 500+ GFLOP range. At best their successors should offer around a 60% performance boost, at hopefully the same TDP, which would put it behind XBO still in terms of performance.

Xbox1 is 1.2 teraflops the X1 is 1.1 teraflops and the follow up to X1 is 10x the performance so leaving xbox1/ps4 in the dust.

Also X1 supports 4k media...

@ricosuave.

No, you're wrong. Eurogamer said everything points to tegra x1. What Eurogamer said is that there is a X2 coming out. Then they said Nvidia has a configuration that is TWO X2's, that MAY be built off of Pascal, and specifically the 1060 part of the Pascal. But not a 1060, just a cut down from the 1060.

The most we can hope for is a single X2 in it, which will still be pretty darn crappy.

So no, this isn't very powerful, and in 2017 it's a slap in the face.

If they aren't planning a true console, and this is their 'console', they're screwed. This cannot compete against Sony/MS/PC, nor can this compete against phones for casuals.... with THIS device. If they think so, they're certifiable morons.

They are in a weird middle ground that appeals to a shrinking market that want a handheld to play that isn't their phone.

It's almost as if they decided they'd rather compete against phone instead of Sony/MS/PC, yet they don't offer a legitimate reason for casuals to buy one. Because the unit isn't their phone, and the games aren't free. Casuals aren't going to go, I want to buy this so I can hook it up to my HDTV.

There has to be something else, no way can a company be this dumb.

It could mach the standard PS4 and Xbox one if the docking station comes with another more powerfull Gpu .Just imagine on the go you have the handle system with Tegra X1 or most likely X2 than when you dock the system to play on your HDTV a more powerfull chipset gets to work from the docking bay...making the full machine match the PS4 and Xbox one in the graphics department and overall.

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Gimmick gimmick gimmick.

I swear people would claim the Internet connection itself is a gimmick if it hadnt already been implemented in the six generation.

The Wii U is a perfectly fine console- there's no gimmicks to playing it. You want a normal controller, you can play with one. Even the gamepad itself is an actual normal controller. Just because it has a screen on it doesn't mean the analogues work any less well.

This is an interesting concept but I see nothing gimmicky about it. Handheld have been around since the dawn of time- adding a valuable feature like the ability to docket and play on the TV is an incredible innovation for handhelds. Cross buy problems are solved. No more having to buy two systems are two copies of one game to play at home or on the go.

Sometimes I think people are just looking for a reason to try to knock anything Nintendo does, knowing dang well even if they made a perfectly normal console you wouldn't buy it because you would find some other excuse, or complained that the console does absolutely nothing different than the one you already own so why should you buy it.

If buying one system to play games on the go or at home on the TV is considered a gimmick then by all means sign me up.

If people would start judging a console or system by the one thing that actually matters (the games) instead of to reject i

I don't think it would be suicide for them to release a traditional console, but I think it may be terribly redundant given that we have two pretty traditional consoles already in the market. Unfortunately, Nintendo doesn't have the mind share that Sony and MS have when it comes to the kinds of games that get released on the system, so making headway into the traditional console market would be much harder. Nintendo exclusives, while awesome games, seem to have fallen out of favor among many of the hardcore market, and don't make the same impact we see with the other offerings in their 1st party line up. This would lead to a WiiU type scenario, unless Nintendo really invests in a much broader exclusive portfolio which can offer up something for the more "mainstream".

I wouldn't consider what they're doing here a gimmick. It just seems like a rather typical handheld which is using more modern technology, and offers some benefits for being a standard console as well. The "gimmicks" seem more like logical extensions to achieving the goal of making it viable as both a handheld and a home console. I'd imagine one could buy a more traditional controller as well, because I can't imagine a detachable controller will be as ergonomic as we've become accustomed to with other systems controllers.

The profit from the physical box it does not mean they profit from the entire investment as a whole that's like saying I sold the house and I made a profit yet you're ignoring the marketing I put into the property and you're ignoring other things I had to purchase to make the property sell in the first place you actually still have to add up marketing costs and other development costs as well as even game development cost.

Stop looking at the outcome of the physical box and its profit to determine if it was a good investment because it's actually pretty stupid.

I wouldn't automatically assume that just because it uses a mobile processor that it'll be under powered. Obviously if it's running as a handheld, it couldn't run the same kind of power for very long, but speed step technologies do exist to compensate. Many laptops run slower when not connected to a power supply for instance...or when you have certain power saving features enabled.

There's also that patent where Nintendo had a way to make systems more powerful through a kind of local cloud compute type solution, which could theoretically be used to make the home version more powerful. Or it's possible, just hooking it up to a power supply will boost the power available to games.

The notion that mobile processors are significantly less powerful than other options is kind of outdated. Many mobile processors today could outperform the PS4 and X1 in terms of raw power on the GPU side, but the power requirements prevent it. Plus there are various stages of available computing power. Also, in this case, it'd be a closed system which would allow for more power to be gained through a much less bloated OS, as mobile devices tend to use the most inefficient high level coding principals available in order to maintain a working system, and typically throw in tons of bloatware which can't be removed.

We in general hear the word mobile, and assume shovelware games. That doesn't mean that's all there capable of. There are games on mobile devices which also look great, and they came out years ago.