I always wished they would make day one patches available before games release. I know it'll never happen as they don't want people that got their mitts on them before street date to have the patch, but it really annoys me getting a new game, waiting for it to install, booting the game and THEN the download starts and you end up quitting back to dash to wait for download/install. I know it's not that big of an issue but annoys me sometimes. Folders would be welcomed too, and being able to permanently delete from your library (for demos etc. ).

Yes blooplease I agree on that so much. Especially since I gamefly most of my games how awesome would it be to be able to preload patches

@bloop

I'd definitely appreciate that feature, pre-loading day 1 patches would be very nice.

What does that have to do with Sony?

@Utalkin2me: A lot, actually, if it's a compatibility issue.

Also, I do hope this update does a lot to fix the overall issues Bethesda and modders have been having on the PS4 with mods. It's obviously not set up well to handle such a system.

Yes, there is that option but I never think of it, ha!! But when we're getting games that have day one patches that can be multiple GB it would be great even if they put them up for download for everybody 24hrs before instead of actually having to have the disc in the system to activate it. Especially when big games release and the servers are getting hammered and it takes twice as long to download as it normally would.

Wow people still buy physical copies ? Lol, I'm just sating as most new releases download the patch as it downloads the main game off the psn

@Orbilator: I only buy digital if I know it's a game I'll want to hold onto forever or if it comes up as a really good deal on PSN. If it's something I know I'll probably just go through once or twice and never touch again I'll buy physical so I can trade it in. Just makes more sense.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Article pointing out some stuff with sonys ps4 and 4k support for it

If they do an official price drop to $299 then they can make the system capable of doing everything that the X1S can do without the need to upgrade hardware. It's just one chip in both systems which is thought to be preventing the new features from being fully utilized, otherwise, both systems are already capable beyond that...or at least require an update for the increased HDMI transfer speed. Slim version could just be a regular slim revision with nothing special about it beyond the form factor....and realistically, would really make MS look bad for not being able to offer the same thing.

Plus Sony tends to have more mind share in being a media player to those who may be looking for such things, so it could put a serious dent in MS own UHD/HDR plans.

From what I understand though, the chips aren't suitable for the HDCP2.2 standard, which is the copy protection used for UHD/HDR discs, so I'm not sure they'd be able to just update it through firmware. I've seen various speculation on it which seems to conflict, but I'll keep my fingers crossed. Maybe there's a way around it through some other means, but I'd imagine would be able to offer the same thing even unless they used a HDMI controller which can't be adapted through a simple firmware update.

Funnily enough, HDR support in games doesn't even require an update to the HDMI controller chip to become HDCP2.2 compliant, just a update to increase the transfer speed of the HDMI which should be possible unless they really cheaped out on the chip itself, since the games aren't likely to use the HDCP2.2 protocol to encrypt it's output for copy protection. I've been wondering if MS would update the OGX1 to support HDR as well.

All conjecture though. So many conflicting theories on the subject that I don't even know what to believe in terms of the silicon offered, and most of this I found out today despite speaking rather authoritatively about it for a while now.:(