That was a missed opportunity for them.

But but but console exclusives?

@Pancit_Canton..

this makes no sense...

MS has money to keep on going and going...and going...

$$$ ends these foolish wars fought by pawns...

All platforms have games. I'm not sure of your point.

I think Ms and Sony have a different strategy and actually! A different approach to console gaming now.
Sony shouldn't change any plan whether Scorpio is more powerful in one year than a Neo releasing soon it doesn't matter much. They can't release neo later since it would postpone a true new gen PS5 while Ms is going for regular upgrade always forward compatible and no exclusive line up on launch

Were it so easy.

Why does the Neo even have to meet the Scorpio specs? If the Neo comes out this year it will mainly have a three layer BluRay player and HDMI 2 to cater for those people who have a 4k TV and want to play three layer BluRay movies. It may be possible that the Neo can upscale games to 4k but then why bother since 4k TV's can also upscale.

I don't think anyone lost or won. Just because two companies were in competition doesn't mean there ever was going to be a victor. The console war is over. Ps4 vs Xbox one, was the last battle. The two companies are going forward i think with two different strategies. With MS releasing a new upgraded console every three years. Sony staying the course they always have, which has always worked for them. Sony has no need to reinvent the wheel. IMO though most gamers buy the most powerful console. MS will forever now have the most powerful console just a year or two away. Sony would have to follow suit and shorten lifespans or eventually it will slowly fade away.

Especially since the rate has been consistently at 3:1 for some months already and it's only going to get worse during the course of next year.

The new line of thinking is that future hardware a ways off will somehow diminish that lead....along with any other lead that is gained in the meantime.

Kind of silly, since MS problem isn't only the power, but just the lack of compelling game that appeal to a broader audience. With MS, outside the oddball title with some actual variety, or at least some interesting premise, it's basically shooters of some sort, and a yearly Forza title.

Not exactly reason to run out and buy an Xbox if you are into a more diverse line up, as Sony has better offerings not just in 1st/2nd party, but with tons of 3rd party support that MS never gets. When there are only a couple exclusives that would appeal to you, but more on another console, and lots more variety in 1st party development, it really becomes a no brainer. All those small groups of "niche" gamers adds up to many millions of users, and the fact MS mostly disregards them is why they don't see the sales numbers that Sony has....as for a while now, PlayStation is really the only place to get them for home consoles, with Nintendo having a bit here and there as well.

MS Net Worth- 380 Billion
Sony`s Net Worth- 18 billion

A 20+ million unit lead will not help Sony from going bankrupt. If they don`t do something soon it will be the end.

As a fps fan i doubt it. Especially if ms give xbox mouse and keyboard support (i think it does already to a lesser degree)

They simply won't allow cross control modes. Either mouse or gamepads.

They don't run on PCie

Pretty sure if Sony were releasing this year, they'd have the chips available to do some testing on the closed system they're making, and the PS motherboard isn't the same kind of design as a standard PC, much less a low end one.

I have doubts about it releasing this year though. Not much time left in the year(assuming a November release), and marketing still has to be done. I'd say Q1 2017 is more likely, or maybe they'll wait it out if the PS4 sales remain high.

Slim they're releasing may be the answer to getting a UHD player/console combo out on the market to capitalize on that group, which may be kind of popular this holiday as some new standalones are coming out which should drive prices down, and give us more than a few options to choose from. Sony has always been a popular choice for getting new tech with a gaming console, and can't see why they wouldn't want to continue that trend.

I constantly hear from Pro Xbox guys that Sony uses Smoke and Mirrors, but you guys never say exactly what these Smoke and Mirror tactics are, can you elaborate?

Sony have delivered more exclusives and will have had the better hardware for over 4 years of the generation, plus you're assuming that Sony had 100% nailed down the exact specs rumors said Neo has, even though that system's end performance could be vastly increased by actually overclocking the GPU to much closer or even beyond the boost clocks of the RX 480, which matches Neo's GPU specs perfectly.

PS4's success has been about it's solid gamer focus and in that regard they're way ahead of Microsoft.
No smoke and mirrors has been necessary, just a gamer connected design plan and conviction in it's execution from day one.

What Smokes and Mirrors?
More like Steaks and Melted Cheeses to me!

MS Net worth- 380 Billion
Sony`s Net Worth - 18 Billion

I think you are wrong. I fact i know you are wrong.

There already are 6-15 hours games available.

Like DX12, or the Cloud?!

What world are you living in? Lol

Sony DOES innovate. MS usually copies things or pays people for their innovations.

Sony has been around for a longgggg time... wayyy longer than MS has, and have been innovating for decades before MS was even around.

I'm sorry, but you must either be very young or you are just very ignorant to the tech world over the years.

Ponyboy am spending my money on it and I own two Xbox ones and I hate sweaters . Also no need to lie to myself about anything and will always be loyal & supportive .

(just in case you try to play the name calling card

GoldenArcanine1h ago
Sony aren't the ones that need to fight back, they've already destroyed the Xbox DONE in the sales charts by having far better hardware, far better exclusive games and far better online services. The PS4 is outselling the pitiful competition by a ratio of more than 2:1 worldwide and the gap gets bigger every single month.

It's gong to be interesting to see how many of the Microsoft donkey botherers on here actually think this Project Scorpio is worth spending money on. Because they sure as hell didn't think the Xbox ONE was worth purchasing and that's why it's been rotting down in the bargain bin like a second - hand sweater all its life.

I guess those deluded, desperate Microsoft loyalists can lie to everybody else...but they can't lie to themselves. And sales prove that. )

@GoldenArcanine Trust me its the only plat I support & will always support .

@GoldenArcanine

the foolish name calling makes you feel like a king doesnt it.
you sure told those xbots a thing or two.
someone get this guy a sticker, for insult of the year.

if you dont like microsoft, then thats' fine, but you have to no right to judge anyone who decided to buy what they wanted to buy with their money...

Here's some food for thought though..

That company you hate, just made billion dollar purchases with the change in the couch cushions

(Dumb purchase but) That whack company purchased LinkedIn for $26billion
(Another dumb purchase) That what company Purchased one game (Minecraft) for $5billion
That dumb company decided to produce a slime Xbox (with some extra features)
And just for fun decided to make a more powerful Xbox for 2017

That $$Billions of dollars spent on purchases and R&D, and they didnt' break a sweat

My point it, the company you dont like has more than enough $$$ to keep the party going.

Well Said,

Someone who knows the truth

Microsofts move is a pathetic one, but it is business.
They lost their market share that they did have and so they are forcing sonys hand to either compete, or take a risk and see if it is power that sells consoles.
At this point though, with Microsofts horrible last 4 years of the 360 and mediocre Xbox one 3 years... What mass market would jump back on?
Sonys "financial" troubles are not being painted correctly by you. Their products became irrelevant by their own innovations. Batteries, CD players, DVD players etc etc etc all went obsolete. That is factories, jobs, and everything it took to run them. They created their own downsize. That is a lot of fat they had to cut and while cutting, profit forecasting took hits.
It happens to all companies that actually build products just like Microsofts purchase and then closings of their mobile department, entertainment department, zune department etc.
The difference financially is Microsoft makes free money by their advertisement and marketing departments.
Sony is a gaming and entertainment company whole heartedly now where as Microsoft is not.
Sony can and will fight for what it is they are with all that their company has to offer.
Microsoft has to buy their products in order to sell the products they offer...
Money is not the be all or Microsoft would not have closed all those other departments so I would not praise their wallets when it comes to something they are not... a gaming company.

I agree with you about being tired of the constant pissing match. But I disagree with your comment about the "underpowered 360". The truth is, the 360 had hardware advantages that played out in predictable ways. It had a more powerful GPU, unified memory architecture, and more RAM available for games due to a smaller OS footprint. The PS3 had a more powerful CPU, but that wasn't going to be enough to make up for the advantages the 360 had. Especially for the way games were made at the time. And the result was that the 360 generally outperformed the PS3 in multiplatform titles.

People care about results not theoretical performance. The 360 performed better in multiplatform games and I have no doubt that that was a big factor in why it was able to sell on par with the PS3 last generation, despite the PS3 having the advantage in terms of things like free online gaming, better brand recognition (especially in non-western markets), and a stronger first party lineup.