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Submitted by AgentWhite 492d ago | article

Why Apple is Great and Everyone Else Is Not Even Close

Forbes : If you ask those that invest in Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) what’s so great about the company, you will get a host of different responses. They all might be right and they all might be wrong. However, the one thing that remains constant with Apple is that the company doesn’t care a heck of a whole lot about what you think. (Apple, Industry, Web)

Lord_Sloth  +   492d ago
Except that they're not.
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aviator189  +   492d ago
This is the one company I'd like to see fall.
KingPin  +   492d ago
well the good news is you'll live to see the day.

its not gonna take long. they haven't innovated in the last 3 years. it's just more of the same. theres only so many lawsuits you can make on outdated tech.
Vames  +   492d ago
Would you be able to find jobs for the workers?
ABizzel1  +   492d ago
Apple won't be great until

1. They become open source, or at least less of a tyrant.

and

2. Cut the prices of most of their products by 30% - 50%.
Kaneda  +   492d ago
We already have a company like that now, it called Dell!
3GenGames  +   492d ago
They aren't, and since all they care about is profit, never will be. You can keep your locked down POS Mac, iPhone, etc. I'll be on my Android Tablet, Phone, and Linux+Win7 Laptop doing real work with free and high quality software. Only an idiot will pay to be locked in to using Apple services OR devices. No freedom, it's like a prison playpen.

Artists use Macs because they're not computer literate. While you look at programmers and IT guys and most run Linux. There is a reason.
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thebudgetgamer  +   492d ago
That's weird, I work in an I.T. office and Apple products have been showing up everyday lately. In two weeks Apple products will be all I use at work.
CraigandDayDay  +   492d ago
People just hate on Apple to hate on Apple. I love my MacBook Pro (2011 i5 4GB RAM non-Retina display). It's my baby. Just paid it off (BestBuy Card). I am so impressed by it. It's my first Mac computer. I've had iPhones for awhile and bought an original iPad when it came out. MacBooks are QUALITY computers. They're in it for the long haul. IT's built like a "brick $hithouse". haha The unibody aluminum design makes it extremely durable and rigid. I can pick it up by the very side of it and it doesn't bend one bit. Most laptops are plasticky and bendy and feel like they're gonna break when you do that.
caseh  +   492d ago
@thebudgetgamer

Apple hardware has its place in business, however to run an entire office on Apple products alone is just asking for trouble unless you like paying outta the ass for EVERYTHING.

Just thinking back to an iMac we had in my old office, power supply was a bit flaky so needed replacing. Cost of replacing the PSU was a few quid less than buying a new iMac, in a word...ridiculous.
ReconHope  +   492d ago
i wouldn't dislike it so much if it wasn't so expensive. i know it's good quality.
Moentjers  +   491d ago
MAMP says 'Hallo World' ! If you can choose between a MacBook Pro or MacBook Air and another, be wise and get the Mac-hardware. Run whatever OS on it if you want but once you get used to the OSX and no loss of maintenance time, well...
Revvin  +   492d ago
I think the brand hate is really silly. I wouldn't buy a Mac because from my technical background I can do everything I need to on a PC and from a budget point of view I could buy two or more PC's for the price of a Mac. That said I still look at them and admire the styling and the OS its just not for me. That said I do own an iPhone. I'm on my second one now - an iPhone 5 after enjoying using the iPhone 4. I tried a Samsung Galaxy S3 but didn't gell with it like I did the iPhone. I also own an iPad 3. It was my first tablet and I think its a really nice device but the software is not as flexible as Android so I will be considering Android tablets the next time I upgrade. I buy what I think is best at the time for me, it doesn't matter what brand so long as it does the job which is why I don't understand the brand hate mentalitty.
3GenGames  +   492d ago
Because the brand is set up so you can't take your stuff elsewhere, you get tied to their products, you own nothing. Plus it's blatantly overpriced to the point of stupidity. You get the picture?
Revvin  +   491d ago
You're tied to nothing, lots of free apps on both Apple and Android and around £0.69 for most apps. I bought a few apps on Android for the few days I tried it, a few pounds in total to get a few of the pay-for apps I liked. I switched back to Apple a few days later but I don't regret it, I don't feel tied to any system. Maybe thats just your excuse for hating one system over another and not the reality that we're all free to pick and choose as we see fit.
broomhead123  +   492d ago
Said no one ever
thebudgetgamer  +   492d ago
The people in this article is the reason I like Apple.
3GenGames  +   492d ago
Because we're too complicated for you to figure out and need something dumbed down without the right to own anything?
thebudgetgamer  +   492d ago
No, it's because any company that makes people hostile at the mere mention of its name is okay in my book.
KingPin  +   492d ago
you lead a sad life buddy.

"No, it's because any company that makes people hostile at the mere mention of its name is okay in my book."

its not the mere mention thats making people reply the way they are. its the fact that this author is claiming Apple are something they not. if this author were to say "Apple revolutionized the mobile phone with the first iphone" i would agree with that statement. but to claim no other company is not even close, is pure bull. if samsung weren't even close, why do Apple feel so threatened by them to the point of banning their products? they afraid to lose market share, thats why.

your comments holds no weight in my books. the only reason you like apple is coz they make people cringe? could you not think of features that Apple have thats exclusive to Macs that cant be done elsewhere? almost everyone here stated examples to an extent of why they prefer PCs over Macs or vice versa. you have nothing.
Kaneda  +   492d ago
PC can't run MAC OS X. You have to hack it! and regular consumers have time to hack?
KwietStorm  +   491d ago
Lol typical
KingPin  +   491d ago
"PC can't run MAC OS X. You have to hack it! and regular consumers have time to hack?"

thats an OS issue not a PC issue, but if you wanna go down that road, explain to me why would i wanna use OS X instead of linux 12.04LTS or Windows 7?
spektical  +   492d ago
I disagree. Their products are blatantly overpriced and the sheep buy like no other. I can buy a better product in terms of specs for cheaper than what Apple offers.

Its the Call of Duty of Hardware, people mistakenly buy the same product only to ask, why? what are the changes? where are the vast improvements? did i really drop ~%50 more than similar products?

I leave apple to the casual market, its for them, they dont know any better. Apple makes safe devices, albeit viruses have not yet gotten a strong foothold, but soon will. We will see how strong the sheep are when that happens.
ThePundit  +   492d ago
The higher pricing is due to the better build of the machine, amongst other things.

For instance, look at what happened when other companies tried to build Ultrabooks to compete with the Macbook Airs.. the prices went sky-high.

From what you've said, hardware specs is what determines the money you spent. For me, it is the productivity that I gain with a machine that determines the value I get from it.

Plus, macs stay solid and functional for several years.. I have a 2007 mac that I still use happily. The aluminium body is still solid, unlike my creaky plastic win laptop.
KingPin  +   492d ago
if you look after anything like you normally should, it will last long. there build quality is better but it still doesn't justify there exorbitantly high prices. even Dell laptops are cheaper and their build quality is just as good. for the price of a MacBook pro, you can get a Dell XPS laptop for a cheaper price with better specs too.

i had the ipod 5th generation so its not like ive never had apple products in my life. and i looked after that like i do everything else i own, weird thing is, the sound suddenly stopped working. however when i press the lower left hand corner, it works again. i googled it, i wasn't the only one with that issue. can Apple fix it, probably, will they, no. i was told to buy a new ipod.
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RickHiggity  +   492d ago
If you're looking for a laptop. sure, go for a macbook. Though I've seen plenty of laptops that have lasted quite some time. The fact that you have a single flimsy windows laptop doesnt entirely justify your point, as it mostly depends on the brand. In terms of desktop PCs, you can buy a prebuilt tower with similar, or sometimes better specs than a Mac at a fraction of the price. And unlike the mac, you can upgrade it over time. Or you can do what I did and build one, with awesome gaming capabilities, still at a third of the price of an apple computer.
Like Skeptical said, if your a casual tech person, a macbook from 2007 will do just fine for you. For those of us who have more experience with technology, and want some freedom with our machines, We'll stick with PCs and pay less.
RickHiggity  +   492d ago
Here I thought fanboyism was mostly a gaming thing. I can't tell people what to buy. But I'll happily stick with a PC that I can upgrade over time. Rather than spend over $1000 on something that doesn't do a single thing I can't already do.
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Vames  +   492d ago
Speaking of fanboyism when you're a fanboy yourself.
dennett316  +   492d ago
See, you're just throwing out the label and providing no reasons to counter his argument. He said quite plainly why he feels that way...you simply responded with the equivalent of "nuh-uh!".

Build quality is one thing, but really, what are you doing with a laptop every day that necessitates such a premium? I've had several "creaky and plasticky" Windows laptops, used them everyday as you would use a laptop - moved it around from place to place etc - and have never had a single problem with any of them.
Is the premium cost and locked down nature of Apple products really worth it? Is the OS really that much better than Windows or Linux?
The only advantage I see with Apple products is that they hold their price well if you wish to sell them on. But frankly, that only comes as a consequence of the premium price in the first place and a dedicated fanbase that continually trot out the same old excuses for why a used machine is worth so much money.
It's a vicious circle of paying too much for relatively weaker tech in a slightly more durable and flashy case that doesn't really offer any benefit to the average laptop user.
KwietStorm  +   491d ago
Care to expound? Or are you just upset he's not on your team?
Vames  +   491d ago
Didn't neeeded to say a thing. He has his reasons for sticking with his PC, folks who buy Apple have their own reasons for doing so. What do you say to the former PC users who switched over? They did it for a reason.

Now, I'm no fan of Apple products, but one can't disregard every Apple fan for liking what they like and are willing to pay the premium to get it. Millions of consumers can't be purchasing Apple products blindly without a reason, he might not be able to see why, it is the same for Apple fans, they can't see why we prefer PCs either.
RickHiggity  +   490d ago
@Vames. As a PC gamer, Macs don't meet my criteria. I could switch over, sure. But I would be unable to play most of the games that I own, There would be many applications I would be unable to use, etc. If other people have different needs with their system, and they buy a mac, that's fine. But the fact that I'm not on your team doesn't make me a fanboy. And call me crazy, but I have a bit of an attachment to the rig that I built. Building our own PC is a nice little hobby us PC gamers enjoy doing. Something impossible to do with a mac.
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ThePundit  +   491d ago
Why do you say that Macbook Pros can't be upgraded?

Apart from the processor and GPU which are embedded, you can upgrade the other parts like RAM, HDD, or even swap the optical drive for yet another hard or solid-state drive. And it's as easy as upgrading any other normal laptop (not Ultrabooks). So, what's the difference on that front?

And what is this "lockdown" on Macs? I have been able to install any software I want, even open source stuff like OpenOffice.org and GIMP. Haven't faced any issues in the past 5 years on this machine.

Finally, the "pay less" part -- if windows laptops are cheaper, how come the similarly built macbook airs and ultrabooks are head-to-head on price?

I feel windows and macs are kind of the same difference as american muscle cars and italian supercars. The latter are priced heavily, but they've got a different style element and ergonomics. At the end of the race, you can either have a higher specced muscle car win, or win through sheer aerodynamics and efficiency. (my speech bubble's out)
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Erudito87  +   492d ago
i gave up on apple because of the incremental updates(hardwarewise too) and all the bs litigations

"a good artist steals and a great artist steals others ideas patents it and litigates the hell out of everyone" steve jobs
iliimaster  +   492d ago
well if ur talking about the first iphone yes but the same dang screen size for 1 2 3 3gs 4 4gs and now just a taller screen for 5? come on my advice pick urself up a gs3 use it for a few days and then go back to the iphone it will feel like going from a big screen tv to a tiny screen
Orbilator  +   492d ago
you know this article was always going attract the wrong sort of people.

As someone in IT and desktop publishing, I know that my business would fail if I were to run it on Windows PC based systems. Purely from a stability side of things.
Macs maybe over priced but your paying for a quality system that have full driver support and are as stable a rock.

In the 2 years since the last Mac pros went in I cant remember a single day were we were down or crashed.
In fact I think our IT guy spends most of his time at the reception desktop which is running windows.
Now let me just stop everybody before they jump on the bandwagon with hate towards me, I love PC's, I have my mac book and a windows desktop and a windows laptop at home. I game on my windows pc and I love it. But i know the trouble I had getting everything to work and all the drivers in with my custom built pc, and even now I get random errors and crashes, which after spending close to 2000 I don't want. With a Mac these problems don't arise as everything is normally supported from the offset and runs as its should out of the box, I have been putting my mac book to sleep for 286 days and that's my up time, not bad for a 2 year old laptop that's used 4 - 6 hours a day, in fact the only reason its not more that 286 days is because I upgraded the ram..
Oh and don't even get me started on running linux with cutting edge hardware, your waiting a we while for drivers. and some of my stuff will just never see a fully functioning linux driver.
kingPoS  +   491d ago
I just plain don't like that when anything i-centric is involved with a pc, i-tunes (the cpu hog) usually comes-a-long for the ride.

What a bog down. >_>
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doctorstrange  +   491d ago
Forbes are such trolls.

I'm going back to enjoying my iPhone and Nexus 7.

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