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Submitted by -Mezzo- 250d ago | news

Former Apple exec: ‘Apple haven’t invented anything’

BGR - As Apple (AAPL) prepares to launch what by all accounts will be the most successful device it has ever built — and just a few weeks after the company was awarded more than $1 billion in damages when Samsung (005930) was found to have infringed on its IP — an article penned by a former Apple executive questions exactly what Apple’s role is in the consumer electronics industry. Jean-Louis Gassee, who came very close to becoming the president of Apple in the late 1980s before being ousted by CEO John Scully and Apple’s board, claims that while Apple’s success in the industry cannot be disputed, its perception as an innovator is open to discussion. (Apple, Industry)

-Mezzo-  +   250d ago
Good, now how long before Apple Loyalist admit this too & abandon the belief the Apple invented everything.
Crazay  +   250d ago
This is what I've been saying for the longest freaking time. Still the loyalists will refuse to admit it's validity.

Mezzo and I will no doubt get "Butt hurt" comments and other garbage but if you actually sit back and think about it, the proof is in the pudding.

**Edit** screw that - I'm taking the wind from their sails. You're just all butt hurt Mezzo. APPLE RULEZ! =P
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Kurylo3d  +   250d ago
so far im seeing nothing but agreements. Anyone surfing a technology website would normally agree i think. Its people who know nothing about technology that beleive apple invented everything. They also assume apple makes the best computers.

Why? Cause apple said so.
extermin8or  +   250d ago
ugh god I was in physics earlier, heard this guy in my class talking about apple like they were god or something, what's worse because he's apparently considered to be 'in the know' about technology people were lapping up what he was saying-even the teacher at one point; I'm new to this class and was left just sitting there thinking "I think anything you think you know about any of this stuff and how the tech actually works- I and anyone else that spends abit of time surfing the web likely knows about 10x what you know" really wanted to give him a slap and tell him to go check his facts according to him the new mac book pro's are like the most powerful laptops/pc's you can buy so powerful infact that apple can't make the screen bigger because they can't fit the power into the machine. lol just lol a) they are way overpriced for their specs b) I'm pretty certain if you custom built your laptop it would be more powerful if you so wished although ofc really if it were as powerful as he was making out it would be setting fire to your lap as you used it or need an industrial fan; god all but the most expensive model don't even seem to have dedicated graphics cards but intel HD 4000's integrated into the chip- if I'm paying a grand I expect to have a damn good dedicated graphics card, I can get laptops that can do alot of the stuff he was talking about like playing games better than the macbook based off that for pretty much half the price- and the retina screen is pretty and everything but lets be hinest when the screens that size and the distance you are from it shouldn't be further than about your lap to your eyes why the hell do you need a resolution that great I personally can't tell much of a difference apart from marginally sharper colours which could probably be achieved by OLED laptop screens if they fix the issue with the lighter patches of black on a dark screen. He couldn't even tell me what speed in GHZ his processors were running at or what one it had in it (i3,i5,i7 etc- I already knew from the price he said it was that it was i5 but that's irrelevant)
evil_element  +   250d ago
@extermin8or Is that one sentence? Because looking for your full stops in that paragraph is bit like finding Wallie.
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Wikkid666  +   250d ago
The problem is most Apple loyalist are clueless and don't care. They've totally been brainwashed.
evil_element  +   250d ago
nope, we just dont by worth shitty tech.
Crazay  +   250d ago
@evil element...but you "buy" crappy spell/grammar check
evil_element  +   250d ago
@Crazay You should apply for the Windows Office paper clip vacancy. You could go around he web correcting folk. Oww wait you do.
Crazay  +   250d ago
@Evil Element.

Don't tempt me, you alone would provide me with all kinds of job security.
ozzywazzy  +   250d ago
@ evil element, crazay

Get a room already.
ziggurcat  +   249d ago
the problem is actually butthurt PC/android fanboys that can't handle a company that makes well-built, well-designed products, so they s**t-talk the apple in an attempt to make it seem worse then their own s****y, poorly made products.
Vaud-Villian  +   249d ago
Most PC loyalists run on the assumption innovation and invention are the same thing.
fatstarr  +   250d ago
its about time, the ship is about to sink.
ArmrdChaos  +   250d ago
You can blame it all on the patent office....which I believe is currently run by a crate full of brain damaged chimpanzees. With all the vague pieces of garbage that make it out of that office one would think they are receiving kickbacks. I am still waiting on my patent for flavored water...will make a killing on the apple fans alone.
thebudgetgamer  +   250d ago
Seems like a barrel of sour grapes to me.
adorie  +   250d ago
or... an ocean full of truth. Truth is unbiased, can be beautiful or chaotic.

Truth does not take sides. Truth here is that Apple took existing technologies and put it all under the hood of the Iphone.

If I was lying, then why do they license patents for?
Sothey can throw the tech tied to those patents, into their phone.

Now,if I want to make a phone or gadget that has a rectangular shape which also happens to be rounded at the edges, am I seriously going to have to license a patent from Apple to do so?
ziggurcat  +   249d ago
hate to burst your bubble, but MS/samsung takes/uses existing technologies, too... now let's all constantly publish garbage butthurt articles, and s**t-talk MS/samsung all day long.
KMCROC54  +   250d ago
Sometimes the Truth comes in weird packaging or in what most would consider sour grapes, like for instance in your case & view of this article.
Vaud-Villian  +   249d ago
Wow, way to make sour grapes into whine
caseh  +   250d ago
iPhone STILL doesn't allow you to use memory cards or replace the battery. I mean come on, how much more of an arse fucking do you really want on top of your £50-a-month phone contract?

"Oh but its the latest iThing thats newer than the one i've got now so its shiny...er. it also doesn't do ANYTHING new on top of my 4S but i'll happily tie myself into another 24 month phone contract as I lack common sense to a degree that is unparalleled by most normal people"
WarriorPoet  +   250d ago
They didn't innovate in technology itself, but it's availability. They took the prohibitively complex computer and made the Model T equivalent, simple enough anyone can use. If only Steve Jobs had Henry Ford's sense of solidarity for his fellow man than everyone would have an iPhone!

They're business practices are another story altogether. They're market share is inflated greatly from the ignorance of their customers, something anyone with a clue can't help but notice. They're patent trolls and they stifle innovation and progress because the greed of the American culture has no limits. They exported American jobs to import Chinese products. They are essentially a liability to the welfare of the nation, who cares how successful they are if it only makes them more greedy.
astar123456789  +   250d ago
bla bla bla same thing over and over again my phone is better then yours bla bla if you like the phone then use it if not shut the hell up
SmokeyMcBear  +   250d ago
dont you know the best companies dont actually invent anything, they take others inventions, tweak it a bit, make it user friendly, the profit the hell out of it. The Hater's tears are very salty nowadays.
OmniSlashPT  +   250d ago
So who changed the mp3 industry? Who changed the music distribution industry? Who changed the mobile phones industry? Who presentend and revolutionised the tablet market? Which computers and laptops do designers and artists use?

This guy sounds butthurt, just like every single hater here. Apple isn't god, neither they've invented everything. But neither did Samsung, or Nokia, or Microsoft. But everyone must admit Apple made the biggest impact in techonology in past decade. The other companies just follow their steps.

Patents are a devil business, and Samsung, Nokia and MS have been in this war for ages as well. Motorola as being suying everyone for years and it was Samsung that started this war against Apple.

People complain how iPhone 5 is not a major change from the 4S. But neither are Samsungs and other phones. Bigger screen? Updated software? some new tricks? that's it. Did Samsung reivent the wheel with S3? Well, they made the biggest, ugliest smartphone on earth, that's for sure.
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caseh  +   250d ago
I own a Galaxy S2 myself, S3 spec is impressive but I won't be getting one. Like you said (in not so many words), it didn't reinvent the wheel but everyone I know who owns an S2 hasn't shifted to the S3.

You see, people who have a bit of knowledge about phones, specs and technology in general will know the S3 will offer very little over their S2.

iPhone owners on the other hand, will QUEUE outside an apple store hours/days in advance, 4S in hand getting ridiculously excited about owning the latest Apple product...are they even aware of why they want the next iPhone, it offers f*ck all in the way of 'innovation' etc that Apple products are apparently all about. Its just another iteration of what they already own and its quite honestly pathetic.

However, I digress. HTC are gunning for Apple and I imagine several other companies will be following suit after the ridiculous court case enforcing patents for devices with rounded corners...*sigh*
Clarence  +   249d ago
Htc is a piece of $hit phone. I had htc phones and every last one of them had to be sent back because something on them would stop working. The same with pc always a issue with them. I bought a MacBook pro in 2008 and it still runs like new. The same goes for my 2010 iMac and iPhones. I have never had to any problems with them. The iPod changed the way we listen to music. Before apples iOS came all the pc screen looked dated.

Because of the apple pc screens look alot better. So really apple invented style.

Apple may have not invented everything but they sure as hell perfected it.
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caseh  +   249d ago
"Because of the apple pc screens look alot better. So really apple invented style."

Wow, how naive can you be. Heres a little eye opener for you. Type the following command into your terminal command line on any macbook:

ioreg -lw0 | grep IODisplayEDID | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

It will display the model of your macbook screen. Probably a Samsung panel, hows that for a bitch slap. Same company who make the Galaxy phones.

Apple are basically thieves who fine-tune existing tech then over price it and patent it. Whats your basis for this horseshit about PC screens looking better because of Apple exactly? If it wasn't for Microsoft I would imagine Apples existing OS would look like crap looking at what the earlier versions of the MacOS looked like.
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spartanlemur  +   249d ago
Apple even stole their whole white space-age plastic style from Sci-fi movies like 2001:ASO and Star Wars.
That said, I do love the white-plastic space age style and would love to see many products using it. I'd just like to see an end to it being associated with Apple.
2pacalypsenow  +   249d ago
everyone i know that has an Apple products buys it because its "HIP" except for the ipod cuz its prob the best MP3 player out there
Clarence  +   249d ago
Everyone who has an android product buys it because it's cool to hate on apple. Even though android is point blank a rip off of apples concept
2pacalypsenow  +   249d ago
maybe its cheaper? and more accessible than the iphone
chadwarden  +   249d ago
Apples concept being a rip off of sony and symbian. Of course acknowledging this wouldn't help your agenda.
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mt  +   249d ago
Apple didn't invent anything yes maybe that is right, but apple took what wasn't destined to success and made it very successful. touch screen it was way back before Iphone, but who gave a crap about touch before apple introduce Iphone, and nowadays; you see all companies are trying hard with non-keyboard phones thing. I am not fan but I just want to spit out the truth.

P.S I know nowadays, it is cool to hate apple products ;p.
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Crazay  +   249d ago
Uhmm....actually RIM did a touch screen phone before the iPhone, admittedly it was poorly executed but hey at least they tried something new when it was still a fairly new concept. I still much prefer the keyboard on BB but, they got arrogant and look where they are now. I smell the same thing happening to Apple now.

Oh and BTW - It's been HELLA-COOL to hate them since the Apple II. Just saying.

I'm no sheep either. Never liked anything about Apple products. Actually hated Computer class in grade 5 and 6 because I didn't like the Apple computers we were using.
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mt  +   249d ago
it looks like you apple anti-blinded fan =)

basically I said all what you said in one sentence but blinded fan is blinded.

"touch screen it was way back before Iphone."

as I said I am not fan neither anti-blinded fan.

I am just not a sheep who thinks it is cool to hate on apple products. *winks* *winks*.
19993568  +   249d ago
300 Chinese people were whipped 11,482,378 times during the making of this phone.
Angainor7  +   249d ago
probably a fired fag

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